"Photography healed me by capturing others' love stories." | A Transformative Journey with Annika Do

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Action is the way to failure and to the win as well.

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That's how you're gonna grow.

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Could you have imagined yourself doing anything else other than photography?

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I had this thought on my mind for such a long time, like I think till the moment when I was in LA.

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I was like I'm not sure if I'm still good enough.

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Who would make a lot of money being a photographer.

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That was my thought.

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I was so into like expressing myself.

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I was so drained working on just regular jobs that I was looking my path like what should I do next?

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And I was thinking, okay, yeah, why should, why not?

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Like I can do that right.

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I remember my first feeling after shooting for like such a long break, even though when I was going through hard stuff last year, the moment when I saw these people, we just talked a little and I was like I forgot everything and after the session I felt so great.

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I actually loved shooting with couples because I didn't think that I would like it.

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It's like my therapy, honestly, because when I see especially when you're going through a breakup or something and you see people who are in love, it just reminds me how beautiful it is when you're finding the right person and I'm telling my clients, you're so lucky to find each other.

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You need to start romanticizing small things in your life and after that you will not be focused on the bad things anymore.

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It's just an amazing feeling and I realized I was just losing so much time for nothing.

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I don't know why, and I was just like, okay, I need to start doing something right now welcome back to another episode guys hello, hi, hi, uh, um, how do I say that in philippines?

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uh?

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I can say it in russian yes say I don't know, I don't know my language.

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I'm gonna say hi, hi guys, welcome back to another episode.

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Uh, with the one and only annika doe hi say her last name.

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It's dobra nina okay, it's anna dobra nina but just find me just with Anika Do, it's my name.

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Annie, annie, what's that sound from Michael Jackson?

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Annie, are you okay?

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Annie, are you okay, annie?

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It's not exactly Annie, but yeah, it's fine, I love it.

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I heard, I heard.

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That's what I heard.

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Okay don't make my hearing loss invalid.

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I find it pretty difficult for people with like Anika Do Like it sounds really unusual, I think right.

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Wait, your name.

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Yeah.

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It's dope.

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Okay, yeah.

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It is so cool, like, okay, I don't know if I told you my first and middle, my whole first name.

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No, kino is not actually my real name.

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Okay, it's a nickname.

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Okay, oh, so it's not your real name.

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Say it to us?

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No, no, kino is.

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I prefer that way rather than my real name.

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It's Kenneth Paul, kenneth Paul no, shut up, what was?

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It, that's it kenneth paul, it's like like fool.

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Yeah, yeah, kenneth paul is my first name.

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Wow, I don't like it.

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Why it sounds like uh from some fairy tale like some, I love kino kino is good.

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I like kino you know, what's kino means in russian film?

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yes, it's actually k I know, but my parents uh have always called me that since I was little, and I I would like to think that maybe it's uh destiny that I'm named kino and I'm doing this all right, it's your destiny, huh I don't want to sound narcissistic, guys.

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I'm just trying to be humble here, I'm sorry.

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Wow, in this episode, guys, today we're going to be talking about um annika do brina and her story as a photographer.

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You know, as always, you guys are going to learn a lot of valuable lessons and I hope you get inspired.

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So we're going to go into, like you know, those shows where it's like a flashback.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Okay, let's let me.

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Okay, annika, we're going to recreate our conversation, okay, yeah, of course.

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Tell me, on the darkest night of your life what was your origin story like.

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Take us there.

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Oh my gosh, my photography story.

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Yes.

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Okay, so it all started 15 years ago, and it's not even a joke, because I was 12 years old.

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Yeah.

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That's how I remember it.

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Maybe I was 10.

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Honestly, it's really hard to tell right now, but around 10 to 12 years old.

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I think I got interested in really like some photography and just art in general.

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Yeah.

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Photography, art and movies, and I just was taking pictures of everything and everyone.

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Okay.

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And I don't know.

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Know, I was just bringing my camera.

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Not my camera was my parents camera, so it's cool and I was taking pictures of my friends and videos.

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I still have those yeah, it's so ridiculous to watch these because we're small and we're just running in the school and I was doing photo shoots like right next to like I don't know window and it was so funny and cringy and I love it honestly.

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It all started then.

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What camera was it it was like kind of digital camera, like really a small one.

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I don't even remember the model, but it's like a one, it's a film where you have to take out the film, or is it still analog but still tech?

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yeah, it's tech.

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It's like small digital camera.

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So I think it was 2007, probably.

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Oh my gosh.

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Okay, so you were running around with your friends, isn't that how our story started?

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I was doing photo shoots for free.

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Remember, people never do anything for free.

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When you're starting out, just have fun, yeah, just fun.

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How?

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What was one part of that story?

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Um of discovering that.

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Um, photos, the love of photography no, we did not talk about this, guys it's not like we talked about it a while ago.

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Yeah, go on so, uh, after that, so just along the journey, yeah, okay.

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Um, well, I mean like, uh, when you the story that you told me about how you were walking your mom, yeah of course, yeah.

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So maybe it started even before I was 12 years old, because when I was little I loved watching and just looking at the photos when I was really small, like baby, just like really small and pictures of my sister, my family, family pictures, like old pictures of my grandma, and it was all together really well organized in one photo album with small notes.

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My mom was just like really well organized with this thing.

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I wish I could be like that.

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I have 90 000 pictures on my phone and it's driving me crazy and I cannot just sit and delete it all.

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But they were just keeping it so well organized, so beautiful, so clean and I was just enjoying and delete it all.

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But they were just keeping it so well organized, so beautiful, so clean and I was just enjoying to look through them and videotapes and everything was just so fascinating.

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I just loved it.

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And I think it was just so amazing for me, young myself, to even the thought that you can capture some moment and some person just take a picture, and that you can capture some moment and some like like person just take a picture and then you can print it out and have this picture for like forever yeah, and this thought like actually I don't know just fascinated and I was just so excited by that.

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I think I just fell in love with photography was there a particular photo where you can um vividly remember that your mom took a view?

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Oh my gosh, there's so many pictures.

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I know you said 10 000 photos, but I think I think so, and I can even show it to you later.

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But yeah, we, we had a lot of pictures, okay, and it was a picture of me and my dad.

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I actually just posted it like a couple days ago for father's day, and um happy father's day, happy father's day and us dad, if you're watching this happy father's day yes, I love you yes it was me and him sitting in the kitchen and I was eating his mac and cheese with my hands and he was just like sitting and eating and I was just like I wanted to.

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You know, I was just two years old and I was just so cute.

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I looked like a boy with like really short hair yeah oh my gosh you know, I think, what photos like you know how we're, when we're just being present in life and being present in life, and sometimes it's hard to choose between being present or wanting to take a photo.

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So you can have that years later.

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So it's just like what was it that your mom did that made you fall in love?

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Because you said, you know, you were so fascinated with how she was able to write tiny notes and all that stuff.

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What was one thing that you can remember that your mom did that made you fall in love with the world of photography?

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I think it's just the moments when, like it was just so right, moments when she captured us like just as a family and it's just such a natural candid pictures.

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And I I'm still doing the same thing, like when I'm working I I'm mostly shooting candidates.

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Like I don't like post pictures, I prefer to have something real in the camera right and I'd love to capture like real moments and tell the story about, like, is it a family couple, whatever?

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Like I want to capture your story.

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I'm going to tell your story through my lens, and that's what I think my mom did and actually like maybe it's affected me some way.

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Actually, yeah, yeah.

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One more thing I have to say is really, like you, absolutely hate post photos oh my gosh, I trust me, I know really we're on the scale of zero to ten, ten being absolutely not zero.

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Wait, no what.

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That doesn't make sense yeah, zero, absolutely not ten you absolutely like it where, where, where would you place yourself?

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okay, I love posting pictures, but I'm so like picky I'm so picky, I'm professional.

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No, I'm perfectionist, professionalist I'm perfectionist and it's like it's not.

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It's not helped me like at all, you know, because when I'm trying to do something perfect, I know it about myself I'm working on it and I'm trying to do something perfect, and I'd rather do something perfect.

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I'm not doing it at all.

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So when I'm looking at my grid right like my content plan, I'm just like it's gonna look like that or it's not gonna to look at all.

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Like I'm not going to post at all.

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So, it's just like my thing and I think, um, I can, I can work on that.

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I'm still working on it, I'm posting more.

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And even social presence is like just the personal brand.

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Being like in front of the camera, like just recording videos and telling about my day.

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Yes, hello, it's my first experience, but it's just so hard for me because it's just a few maybe I don't know reasons.

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The first one, who would care about that?

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But other part of me was like people care, people want to see who is behind the camera, people want to see who's actually going to take pictures.

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Right, because if I would choose a photographer, I would choose a person who would probably be in the same I don't know the same vibe as me the same interests If a person has a healthy lifestyle interest in some movies.

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I want to know that.

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I want to know this person who is going to take a picture of me right, I want to trust this person, but if this is someone who's not like, who's living like opposite life, I will probably not find like connection yeah, yeah, dan.

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Okay, let's unpack here.

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Are you all ready for the roller coaster of unpacking what she just said?

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You just dropped a lot of great uh topics to go off of from first.

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So post shots um, so we can, I can't.

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I think we can come up with our own term professional perfectionist.

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Yeah, okay with the post shots.

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Is it because, uh, whenever I just remember doing post shots and I just can't for the life of, I have to manhandle the talent because it's so hard to it doesn't feel real, it feels fake.

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Where else would you?

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Because every time I see your photo, guys, actually can you drop your social media right now?

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Drop it.

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Drop it, drop it, drop it.

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Okay.

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Where can people find you?

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There's a reason why.

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Go okay.

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Where can people find you?

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Okay, go, okay.

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It's instagram anika doe dot ph.

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And the second one is your anika double n.

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And yeah, I have two profiles, two completely different styles, and it's pretty interesting too.

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I think we'll talk about that later too well, the reason why I braved that up is um, guys, when you're watching this, go to go to her Instagram right now, because it's really important.

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When you're watching this, set your photo site as a reference, because when I looked at your okay, this is how I discovered Annika.

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Okay, when I was scrolling through your Instagram a while while, while while back, I remember seeing one photo, I think it was in Seaside.

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It was like a green patch of grass where alice beach.

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I don't know it's.

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Yes, it was.

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There was a model that was sitting on a.

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Um, that was the first thing when I when I immediately saw it, I was like all right, I gotta get you on a podcast someday okay, and that one is like.

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That seems like a post shot.

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It's not candid, because you're really good at doing the post shots.

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It looks I know, yes, it's.

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It's not candid, of course not.

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What what's?

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your process on how how to get a perfect, okay, perfect is really strong word.

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We have problems with that because, yeah, we're still working on that okay but anyway, um, honestly, this story with this photo is pretty simple.

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Um, my friend visited me from illinois love her anna love you.

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Hey, thank you for being my model, um, but yeah, we, we just went to alice.

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I wanted to show her like just this area super beautiful and we went to the beach and I was just like let's take a picture, it's like under the shower you know, they have beautiful showers and just a few pictures in the swimsuit.

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And she's like yeah, let's do it.

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She loves taking pictures.

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And I was like okay, let's do it.

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And we were just walking around and I was just like I didn't plan this picture, like I was just walking around.

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I was like, okay, I love this geometry.

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It looks so beautiful, you'll sit here.

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I showed her how to sit yeah and she did the same thing and I did a couple shots and we just left because, like it's, it's not really good to take pictures at alice beach yes, yeah, don't worry, I, I, I relate to that.

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They actually kicked me out for a project too.

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They told me you have a camera leave okay, sorry, alice, no al.

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It doesn't make sense.

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You're a tourist area.

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You're going to have to expect people wanting to take one day.

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I know, but I think one day they're actually going to close this area, like with gates probably.

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I think so it's getting so crowded.

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Honestly, I see that too.

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I wish it could be so open for pictures, but people staying there and paying a lot of money to stay there and they probably don't want people to walk around well, if you want mark that's free market.

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Okay, I didn't know that back then actually I was looking around, I did not know either.

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I, yeah, it was scary, you know, when they, when they pull up with the gold card like I'm doing nothing, oh my gosh.

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But going back to that photo, just okay now, knowing that story, that was not planned.

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No, no cursing.

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Well, we could curse what the f wait really?

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yeah, you just literally pulled that shoot like.

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It looked like a professional shoot that deserves to be on.

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That's crazy thank you.

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So now going.

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Now flipping back to the candidate how, how do you?

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What's your process?

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You just tell them like a scenario hey, I need you to.

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To run like you're running across the prairie.

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You're in nashville, free-spirited, like you feel, like the world, the weight of the world is off of your shoulders.

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How do you?

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You've done it before, right yes, I, I always do scenarios okay, but it's so funny.

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But, yes, I'm like, I'm trying.

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We were talking about that before, right but, I'm um telling my couple, for example, let's take a couple yes scenario um, I'm just telling them a story, I'm talking to them.

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Uh, firstly, I get, I need to know them first.

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I I want to know how they.

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Firstly, I need to know them first.

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I want to know how they met.

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I want to know their love story and how long they're together and we're just taking a few like just the classic shots first.

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I even do post shots too, like I'm not going to be, like, okay, you not going to get any like posing shots.

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No, they're getting posing shots because I know they want to share with their families and things like that, but I'm not going to post it on my instagram because it's not represent my work like as I see that at the end, you know.

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But, um, once I get known them better, we're having, like we're on this level with, we are already trust each other.

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Yeah, um, I'm starting to create scenarios when they need to do something and I'm just like imagine that you're there and you're like running away from your family and you're getting loved and you're like catching her and you just want her to be with you and it's just like, yeah, we're just having fun, we're doing crazy stuff, and I think they like it.

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Yes, and most of my couples.

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At the end, I'm always asking if they want to trash the dress.

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They always ask to what?

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I always ask them if they want to trash the dress.

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Trash the.

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Dress.

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Trash the dress.

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Trash, trash.

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You can throw away the dress.

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No, trash the dress.

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That's what I heard.

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Trash the dress.

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It's like when you go in the water and you're like, oh, that's a term.

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Yeah.

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I have never heard of that term Really?

00:17:49.169 --> 00:17:54.767
Yes, I think it's a term I always use, that I've never heard of it, yeah.

00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.288
Well, you just learned a quick new term in the photography world.

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What was it again?

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Trash.

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The dress trash that dress even if it's fifty thousand dollars wedding dress yeah, wow, people don't care yeah, okay, the scenario that I typically would get for the couples.

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It's not like a realistic one.

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I okay, uh, there's one.

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Okay, I need you to pretend that your boyfriend is about to shoot you and you're gonna run away, but you're happy but you're happy that he's gonna shoot you.

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Yeah, but no no shooting.

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We're trying not to we're the shooters okay, yes, I know, but I'm running like kind of backwards, so I need to capture their faces when they're running.

00:18:39.824 --> 00:18:45.092
Yeah, yeah going back to oh my gosh, so what, what?

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Your passion in photography.

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It's like, wow, I, you, I can already tell you just love it so much.

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And it's like could you have imagined yourself doing anything else other than photography, even though you graduated from a university with a degree in marketing?

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go ahead okay, um, so as a plan b, just theoretically, I was thinking about that like in case if I'll get tired.

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I can't imagine that right now.

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Honestly, I like I don't see myself without photography at all, maybe professionally, like commercial wise okay, I would.

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I would probably it's possible to get burned out but, yes, you know what I mean, but in like I would always do that, for I'll do it for the rest of my life.

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I'm 100% sure it was always.

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I always knew that, since I was a kid, right yeah and but the plan B.

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I had this plan B a while ago that I wanted to be a tattoo artist a what that I wanted to be a tattoo artist.

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A what tattoo artist really?

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Yes, whoa, yeah what do you?

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have you ever thought about it from time to time?

00:19:54.461 --> 00:19:55.364
sometimes I'm doing that.

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Huh, sometimes I'm doing that, hmm, because, like, oh, you know, when we grow up as kids, when we have um a career path that we originally wanted to go with I don't know, maybe it's just me like I always think, no, I wouldn't be like, if I did that, what would you have you thought about it if you gone down, have you?

00:20:13.924 --> 00:20:17.373
If you had gone down, if you went down that route?

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Oh, my gosh, you already know what I mean.

00:20:21.704 --> 00:20:21.986
What.

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What would it?

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be Drink the water.

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You just spilled the water.

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That's why he screamed no ASMR, please.

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Okay, I need some water too.

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A little.

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Have you thought about what it would have been like if you had pursued that route full-time?

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You mean tattoo artists?

00:20:51.248 --> 00:20:52.470
Yes, I thought about that, but it was a few years ago.

00:20:52.470 --> 00:20:57.384
Yeah before I started doing photography again two and a half years ago actually exactly um.

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I bought tattoo gun.

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I bought everything.

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I started practicing.

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I got courses um yeah everything, but the thing is I loved doing that and the reason why I actually had the thought being tattoo artist because I was practicing hannah tattoo for a little while I mean, we're in florida, what do?

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you want guys, if you want some hannah arts, uh, tattoo art or whatever that's called yes, I can do everything honestly, like anything, with it.

00:21:30.266 --> 00:21:35.163
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna split up for a second you like tattoos yes, what are?

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I, I think, tattoos.

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Are you the type of person that only gets tattooed meanings, or you just want to be like a fridge.

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You just put whatever is cool on your body?

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I think it's cool both ways okay yeah, I, I see the possibility of this, just an art piece of art of your body and also as a meaning, like meaningful piece of art.

00:21:55.874 --> 00:21:59.528
On your body it could be meaningless and meaningful whatever you want.

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Honestly, you're free to do whatever you want with your body.

00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:05.440
I, I think, I think that's the thing honestly.

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Just know your limits.

00:22:06.463 --> 00:22:07.346
Okay, Just don't get.

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Yeah, for me personally, I prefer to have meaningful tattoos.

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That's why I don't have a bunch.

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If I would have more money when I was younger, I would probably tattoo right now, from here to there.

00:22:20.352 --> 00:22:20.853
So yeah.

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All of these are all meaningful tattoos never, ever ever get anything.

00:22:27.499 --> 00:22:29.482
I'm gonna get covered my hands.

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I'm gonna get more here.

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I'm gonna get tatted up and make my mother cry in disappointment.

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Love you, mom I love you so much I'll get one tattoo for you.

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It's on my face love mom, yes, but okay, so what the photography?

00:22:47.097 --> 00:22:49.445
So the tattoo artist now I don't know.

00:22:49.445 --> 00:22:57.147
This is an easy question to answer, but could you see some elements of being a tattoo artist that could be transferred into the art of photography?

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I think because it's a piece of like it's art in general as well like, like tattoo artist, photographer, whatever you do in, like this industry.

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I think it's different types of art, but at the same time, it's all art.

00:23:11.948 --> 00:23:18.874
You can't deny it, because I think it's so crucial to have art in your life.

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And I think I really like those.

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Like three and a half years ago I was so into like expressing myself.

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I was so drained working on just regular jobs that I was looking my path like what should I do next?

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And I was thinking about being tattoo artist.

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Because a lot of people told me, like you have a steady hand, you can do henna Like you should try, like tattoos.

00:23:42.507 --> 00:23:43.384
And I was thinking, okay, yeah, why not?

00:23:43.384 --> 00:23:43.859
Like I can do thatna like you should try, like tattoos.

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And I was thinking, okay, yeah, why should, why not?

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Like I can do that right, and I started practicing and it was actually was still covered like time okay and it was pretty hard getting like license and go to the tattoo studio.

00:23:57.289 --> 00:24:00.221
I used to live in la back then.

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I mean, I lived in the late back then and, yeah, I was just doing it at home, you know, practicing on fake skin, and I did a few tattoos for my friends.

00:24:09.607 --> 00:24:15.232
It was fun, but it never got to the stage where I was like, okay, I need to go to the tattoo studio and work.

00:24:15.961 --> 00:24:26.753
I never worked in a tattoo studio so I'm doing it kind of for fun still, but I think at some point in my life I would do that full time.

00:24:26.753 --> 00:24:35.665
I would even try to do that, maybe, like trying to do it like 50-50, like photography and tattooing, and I think I could do that.

00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:38.930
That's a hell of a creative combination as a career.

00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:49.769
I know, especially because, like, I have two different styles in my photography, like I'm doing commercial, like brands, yeah, really like open, I would say even provocative.

00:24:49.769 --> 00:25:04.217
You know, with the swimsuits and everything bodies, I love aesthetics like of the body, like men or women, whatever, and at the same time I'm having weddings, engagements and families and I don't know, like I don't want to choose just one thing.

00:25:04.217 --> 00:25:04.808
You know I'm enjoying all of it.

00:25:04.808 --> 00:25:05.281
Like why should I choose only one?

00:25:05.281 --> 00:25:05.605
Like I don't want to choose just one thing.

00:25:05.605 --> 00:25:06.164
You know I'm enjoying all of it.

00:25:06.164 --> 00:25:08.169
Like why should I choose only one thing?

00:25:08.169 --> 00:25:09.893
You don't have to choose only one thing.

00:25:09.893 --> 00:25:10.922
You can do whatever you want.

00:25:10.961 --> 00:25:18.130
So, yeah, that's what I I mean, there is a saying if you choose one thing to focus on, you can uh, you know how like, if you focus on so much things, you might not.

00:25:18.130 --> 00:25:22.924
You will have a less chance of success if you keep focusing on multiple things.

00:25:22.924 --> 00:25:29.253
But if you focus just one thing, the chances of becoming more successful in that one thing becomes exponentially higher.

00:25:29.253 --> 00:25:32.185
For sure, but going back to go on.

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No, I completely agree.

00:25:34.926 --> 00:25:41.099
And if you choose only one, like you have one goal and you'll be like okay, I want to be wedding photographer.

00:25:41.099 --> 00:25:55.327
I want to be the toppest, but I think I'm right now at the stage when I'm still experimenting with styles, with different like photography techniques and even like um, for example, when we are talking about tattoos.

00:25:55.848 --> 00:26:01.987
You need to learn how to draw yes for learn how to draw, you need to understand how art works pretty much.

00:26:01.987 --> 00:26:23.727
You need to read the art too, and it all kind of works together and for me it works pretty well because, again, like if you know more about art, you're like I don't know, you're just exploring more and it actually, like just affects your work yeah photography, so I think it kind of like works pretty well for me right now.

00:26:23.727 --> 00:26:35.710
I don't know what's going to be after, because right now I'm again trying to get more into wedding photography you know like I'm old and like everywhere, trying to try different things, and it works pretty good for me right now.

00:26:36.019 --> 00:26:41.866
I don't know what's going to be later but, I don't want to jinx it or something, but I have a lot of plans in my future.

00:26:42.621 --> 00:26:45.671
So we need to get a magic eight ball, magic eight ball.

00:26:45.671 --> 00:26:54.442
But uh, you have, oh my gosh, oh I love it when people like you guys just dropped so many golden opportunities.

00:26:54.442 --> 00:27:02.546
Yes, um, first of all, um, would you say, if you had continued the path of being a tattoo artist, what style would you have gone with?

00:27:02.546 --> 00:27:10.411
Would you have gone with like, uh, like I know, there's like black and gray, there's american traditional, there's line work?

00:27:10.411 --> 00:27:14.184
Um, just this multitude, what would you have gone with?

00:27:14.384 --> 00:27:19.182
I would go with uh, line work and fine lines, because it's just reflection of me.

00:27:19.182 --> 00:27:23.230
I would say even like myself, I have like line works pretty much.

00:27:23.230 --> 00:27:24.171
And this one too.

00:27:24.171 --> 00:27:32.732
The areas are pretty simple, but I would prefer to do my own sketches and create whatever a person wants to.

00:27:32.732 --> 00:27:37.992
If you would come to me and say I want this meaningful tattoo.

00:27:37.992 --> 00:27:44.887
It's me and my career or my goals in life, it's my destiny or something.

00:27:44.887 --> 00:27:48.288
You're explaining what do you want and I'm just creating something out of my head.

00:27:48.440 --> 00:28:04.471
So it's going to be something unique and beautiful, so it's not just like picture from the Pinterest because, that's what makes me not to do like not to tattoo, because there's so many the same, like sketches and work.

00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.371
It's fine when, at the beginning, when you're practicing, you're doing that.

00:28:08.371 --> 00:28:25.006
But if you're creating something yourself, just out of your mind, even though you can be inspired by a lot of things, but if you're creating something new or I don't know, taking a few inspirations and mixing it together, you're creating something unique, right?

00:28:25.006 --> 00:28:33.888
Because we all know, like the art is all Stalin, Like we're all, still the art it's just what are your thoughts on?

00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.894
is there such thing as art being original at this point?

00:28:39.297 --> 00:28:39.438
No.

00:28:39.939 --> 00:28:41.585
Yeah, there is no original art.

00:28:41.585 --> 00:28:42.548
Wow, straight to the point.

00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:52.053
Guys, there is no original art anymore, and it's totally fine because, again, we still create right.

00:28:52.333 --> 00:28:52.773
Right.

00:28:53.422 --> 00:28:59.900
It doesn't have to be something just crazy and super original.

00:28:59.900 --> 00:29:06.814
If you're doing beautiful work, you're still bringing something out of your personality to work right yeah.

00:29:06.814 --> 00:29:35.678
If you're going to put like two person and you're going to show the picture like recreate this picture, for example, just draw something, and they're going to draw something, but it's going to look still completely different you know, Because we all have different experiences Like we have different, I don't know, just backgrounds and it's going look different and how we interpret the world is also different, of course so that's interesting because, like, uh, you're saying, um, you would rather create scratch, everything from scratch vs original.

00:29:36.058 --> 00:29:37.782
Then where does that come from?

00:29:38.263 --> 00:29:46.810
from experience, okay from inspiration, from when you're watching movies and you don't, don't even realize that you catch that moment.

00:29:46.810 --> 00:29:47.251
You know.

00:29:47.372 --> 00:29:47.653
Yeah.

00:29:48.099 --> 00:29:51.305
You caught that moment and you're just like, oh wow, and you forgot about that.

00:29:51.305 --> 00:29:55.928
But one day you're like, oh wow, I have this idea and I don't know where it comes from, right.

00:29:55.928 --> 00:30:08.428
And then probably you will realize that it was from this movie or from this story, from these people from this day, and it's somewhere like it from this day and it's somewhere like it's unconscious, but it's still.

00:30:08.428 --> 00:30:17.640
You're putting into your work, you don't have to think about this, it's just part of you already, you know that makes sense, like when you watch certain movies, and, yeah, it feels so impactful.

00:30:18.060 --> 00:30:27.328
Yeah, it's because that person, whoever made that art, literally lived through it yes oh okay, wow, I'm learning today that's good.

00:30:27.348 --> 00:30:28.443
Thank you so much for sharing that.

00:30:28.443 --> 00:30:30.932
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I don't really like doing call to the actions, I think I'm not sure if they're legal right now here what I don't know.

00:31:03.183 --> 00:31:06.731
I I got it from Eurostore, like from Russian store.

00:31:07.012 --> 00:31:07.272
Okay.

00:31:07.780 --> 00:31:11.307
I don't see it anywhere here, like in Walmart or Publix or anywhere.

00:31:12.549 --> 00:31:13.171
It's really good.

00:31:13.652 --> 00:31:14.773
Yeah, it's pretty good.

00:31:14.773 --> 00:31:16.814
It was my favorite one when I was a kid.

00:31:16.814 --> 00:31:17.378
That's the thing.

00:31:17.378 --> 00:31:19.321
Yeah that's why I brought it, and this one too.

00:31:19.321 --> 00:31:23.146
This one is my mom's favorite chocolate.

00:31:23.166 --> 00:31:25.288
I almost forgot about the chocolate guys.

00:31:26.250 --> 00:31:35.424
Oh my gosh she loves this one and I think I love this one because she loved it so much and right now, when I eat it, it reminds me of her.

00:31:35.444 --> 00:31:37.869
Have you heard of the Ferrero Rocher chocolate?

00:31:38.090 --> 00:31:38.873
Oh yeah, of course.

00:31:44.034 --> 00:31:48.141
We had this one Every Christmas.

00:31:48.161 --> 00:31:53.151
well, when I was a kid, my parents would buy me like the whole circular uh package of ferrero throughout christmas night by half.

00:31:53.211 --> 00:31:58.047
By the next morning I would eat at least half of it that's so bad now.

00:31:58.047 --> 00:32:00.853
I don't like it anymore of course not okay, okay, okay.

00:32:00.853 --> 00:32:04.503
We're gonna take a break here, guys, uh from our conversation, okay.

00:32:06.567 --> 00:32:07.567
Okay, I'll drink the water.

00:32:07.669 --> 00:32:11.252
This is the proper chocolate.

00:32:11.252 --> 00:32:12.454
Wait, is it water?

00:32:12.454 --> 00:32:13.096
What is this again?

00:32:13.635 --> 00:32:20.429
So it's like dark chocolate, or yeah, it's like dark chocolate with sesame seeds inside.

00:32:20.449 --> 00:32:21.594
I don't know if you guys can see it, oh, you can see here.

00:32:21.594 --> 00:32:23.099
Yeah, okay, I don't know if you guys can see it, oh, you can see here.

00:32:30.917 --> 00:32:32.971
Yeah, you either like it or will hate it.

00:32:32.971 --> 00:32:39.875
It's like Reese.

00:32:39.875 --> 00:32:42.859
Maybe I never actually tried original Reese.

00:32:43.121 --> 00:32:44.155
Yeah, don't be surprised.

00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:45.582
I know this is good.

00:32:45.582 --> 00:32:52.086
Yeah, yeah, you like it, and it's super healthy, like there's no chemicals or anything that's another deal.

00:32:52.105 --> 00:33:05.432
Say gatorade, no sugars added I don't drink it this is healthy, even though it's no, I mean it's not healthy.

00:33:05.512 --> 00:33:09.307
Healthy, but it's not like you know, they don't put any chemicals in this one.

00:33:09.749 --> 00:33:15.184
It's pretty clean ingredient lists I would say no acid, no battery acid or anything like that.

00:33:15.285 --> 00:33:40.148
Yeah, I don't know yeah, anyways, as you went through life and you experience a lot of things, I'm sure you have come across, um, multiple fork in a road kind of thing, where you've always thought about traditional jobs and then the career paths, mainly because the traditional jobs would offer financial security.

00:33:40.148 --> 00:33:42.532
Um, you have all of these things, the benefits.

00:33:42.532 --> 00:33:43.137
How benefits all of that?

00:33:43.137 --> 00:33:43.595
Whereas creative path it is so hard.

00:33:43.595 --> 00:33:44.328
You have all of these things that benefits.

00:33:44.328 --> 00:33:46.826
How benefits all of that, whereas creative path it is so hard.

00:33:46.826 --> 00:33:54.085
You have to work, you literally have to maintain so many aspects of your business, but that's just business alone.

00:33:54.085 --> 00:33:56.230
You still have to take care of your personal life too.

00:33:56.230 --> 00:33:59.710
What was going through your mind when you had multiple moments like that?

00:34:01.102 --> 00:34:06.833
so I had a lot of jobs like traditional jobs here in us and back in russia too.

00:34:06.833 --> 00:34:13.228
Not a lot, I was pretty young, but still um I I think I worked everywhere.

00:34:13.228 --> 00:34:20.971
Honestly, I worked in restaurant, like in water park, big kahuna's, you know this one in destin, the water place.

00:34:20.971 --> 00:34:24.722
Yes, I hate that place I can't say the same thing.

00:34:24.722 --> 00:34:27.606
Last time I've been there actually it was a year ago.

00:34:27.847 --> 00:34:28.748
It was not that bad.

00:34:28.847 --> 00:34:33.393
Yeah, it was fine, but still, I worked there as a photographer actually.

00:34:33.393 --> 00:34:46.847
Wait what yes, and I convinced my manager to transfer me from admission like from tickets to photographers because I couldn't stand my job and I was like I know you have photographer position, put me there please.

00:34:46.847 --> 00:35:03.728
And he was like okay, let me give you like two weeks, I'll see how you work, like and if you have good language skills if you can talk to people because you need to walk around the park and talk to people and take pictures of them in the water, like under the water, like everywhere and I was like okay, let's do it.

00:35:03.929 --> 00:35:09.172
And after like a week and a half probably, I was like so what can I be photographer now?

00:35:09.172 --> 00:35:37.347
And he was like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah we'll transfer you and I was the only russian girl among all american girls in photo booth because they didn't like to put um like students from other countries for this position really yeah, because I don't know, probably they thought it's pretty hard for, like foreign students, because you need to talk a lot, but I love talking, so I was like I can do that and I love to take pictures.

00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.103
So, yeah, it's how it worked for me and it was perfect.

00:35:41.103 --> 00:36:08.646
Honestly, this position was just such a blessing for me because I was the only one who was just walking around the park taking pictures and my friends were working and manager was all the time just like looking at like their workers right and my friends, so they're always under like someone who was watching them yeah I was just by myself at the park just walking around taking pictures, selling them, you know editing, and it was pretty nice.

00:36:09.762 --> 00:36:13.168
They didn't pay me much but I didn't care.

00:36:13.168 --> 00:36:14.585
It was my first summer in the.

00:36:14.585 --> 00:36:30.804
Us and I was just like I'm here for all the experience, for everything Like I don't care about it was just like nine or eight dollars per hour or something.

00:36:30.824 --> 00:36:34.295
The one thing I love about what you said was the fact that you asked for what you wanted, because not a lot of if you don't ask for what you want, you're never gonna get it.

00:36:34.295 --> 00:36:38.186
It's like that, that, that audacity to like, hey, mr manager or miss manager, put me in the.

00:36:38.186 --> 00:36:40.351
I know you guys have a photographer position.

00:36:40.351 --> 00:36:51.710
Do you think that by having that help your business as a photographer get to where you want it to be, by being able to be direct, assertive and ask you for what you want?

00:36:52.210 --> 00:37:10.592
I think so and I think as I got older I realized if I'm not gonna ask, like what I want, if I'm not gonna be direct with people, or with my, or with myself, even, because some people they don't even talk to themselves, I reflect a lot.

00:37:10.592 --> 00:37:13.949
I have a lot of thoughts on my mind.

00:37:13.949 --> 00:37:15.324
Let's take some water.

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:18.628
We're having Topo talk today.

00:37:19.431 --> 00:37:19.771
Yeah.

00:37:21.682 --> 00:37:23.679
We're just really excited, guys, we're just really excited.

00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.143
Please edit this part out.

00:37:25.143 --> 00:37:28.711
I'm'm just like, I'm just dying here.

00:37:32.168 --> 00:37:44.038
Let me drink, okay, drink I'm not going to spill or spit over my expensive equipment, so don't make me laugh.

00:37:44.038 --> 00:37:46.726
I swear, okay, oh you're crying already.

00:37:48.063 --> 00:37:49.266
No, I'm just fixing my makeup.

00:37:49.307 --> 00:37:51.702
You see that, guys, tears are coming out of her.

00:37:52.164 --> 00:37:52.465
Yes.

00:37:54.971 --> 00:37:55.291
Go ahead.

00:37:55.291 --> 00:38:00.469
So, you were talking about the audacity to get what you want.

00:38:00.509 --> 00:38:04.688
Yes, but firstly you need to realize what you want.

00:38:04.688 --> 00:38:07.103
You need to talk to yourself first.

00:38:07.103 --> 00:38:11.195
Okay, so I wanted like I knew that I wanted something.

00:38:11.416 --> 00:38:32.108
For example, I wanted to be a photographer yeah even though I got here I was an exchange student and I was like they have photographer position, I'm gonna, uh, go and ask for it, because if I'm not gonna ask for it, I'm gonna stay here under the sun and I'm gonna work as just a mission, like working with the tickets and money, and I didn't want that.

00:38:32.108 --> 00:38:36.047
And I was just like, yeah, I should go and ask like what I'm gonna lose?

00:38:36.047 --> 00:38:37.233
What are you gonna lose?

00:38:37.233 --> 00:38:40.128
If you're not, if you're gonna do that, you're gonna lose more.

00:38:40.128 --> 00:39:17.311
If you're not gonna do that, you're gonna regret it like after and I think after, maybe when I turned 18, I started learning more about myself and what I want in my life and it actually helped me to being honest with myself and accepting more different parts of me, because sometimes I think that I have few personalities and when I was younger, it was driving me crazy because I was thinking how, how is that possible that I can assimilate in the group of people so easily with such a different people?

00:39:17.472 --> 00:39:23.634
yeah and I was like where, where the real me, you know, like why it's so easy for me.

00:39:23.634 --> 00:39:26.019
Is it the real me when I'm with these people?

00:39:26.019 --> 00:39:29.487
And when I'm with these people, like why it's so easy for me, you know?

00:39:29.487 --> 00:39:39.601
And for me it was like I'm just different, like I can't be different and I'm really like adaptive, I would say yeah, I say that right.

00:39:39.762 --> 00:39:41.905
that's like wow, that's a hell of a word.

00:39:41.905 --> 00:39:43.507
I didn't pass the language.

00:39:43.507 --> 00:39:43.969
I'm sorry.

00:39:43.969 --> 00:39:45.751
That makes sense.

00:39:45.751 --> 00:39:46.554
That's a good word, yeah.

00:39:46.753 --> 00:39:59.574
Yes, and I think I just accepted it as a part of me and as I started like getting to know myself better, I think it worked.

00:39:59.574 --> 00:40:17.931
Right now it works differently, of course, like I know that I want to be with this group of people, for example, and I'm not going to go to other group of people because I know what my beliefs are, and if this is not my group, I'll be like I don't care, I don't want to go there, because what do I need from there?

00:40:17.931 --> 00:40:20.960
We're not going to find any contact with these people.

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:31.309
But back then, when I was just learning about myself, I was like maybe actually, I just got a thought that it was the way of finding myself.

00:40:31.820 --> 00:40:39.869
Like actually like communicating with different type of people, different groups of people, and I always had friends from different groups.

00:40:39.869 --> 00:40:50.027
My friends are so different, even still, and right now, when I'm having, like, birthday parties you know once in a year- oh, by the way, guys send her a message.

00:40:50.219 --> 00:40:52.266
It was a happy late birthday a while ago at this time of recording.

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Continue.

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Yes, my friends like gathering together from such a different like companies, and it's just so, so amazing to see everyone together right now, and it's so nice to see people actually getting friends too Like they're becoming friends too, you know, because I'm the one who brought them together and it's just so nice to see people actually becoming friends after that, and right now it works that way.

00:41:18.646 --> 00:41:30.507
But I think back then, when I was like probably 15, 16 years old, I was trying to just learn more about myself and trying to put myself in different situations and positions to see how I'd feel.

00:41:30.628 --> 00:41:41.286
Probably, and probably that's how I found what I want wow, I am so glad you shared uh that story seriously, because I was I.

00:41:41.286 --> 00:41:46.588
Now I want to know oh, it's time for uh, it's time for the real raw stuff, guys.

00:41:46.588 --> 00:41:49.496
Now, how did you deal with it sounds like uh.

00:41:49.496 --> 00:41:56.356
Did you have moments where you had to, where you felt like um, because you belong to so many groups?

00:41:56.356 --> 00:42:02.184
It's like a paradox where, if you belong to so many groups, you couldn't feel like you belong at any at one place.

00:42:02.184 --> 00:42:18.880
I'm assuming you have a trouble, a lot of trouble, finding a sense of belonging and also like a personal um, identity crisis, like you couldn't find who, who you were, who you are as a person that's really difficult.

00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.387
That is such a difficult yes and 100.

00:42:22.427 --> 00:42:32.849
Like you said, it was like kind of identity crisis okay and I think when you're 15 years old, you still don't know who you are for me was a thing that I was like I don't know what I want.

00:42:33.309 --> 00:42:38.940
I knew that I love photography that's the only thing that one is for damn sure yes, I 100% sure about that.

00:42:39.001 --> 00:42:56.532
But other than that, I was so lost because, I've been told by my father I love you, by the way, like I don't hold anything against my parents, honestly, but I was told by my father that he, I'm just checking.

00:42:56.572 --> 00:42:57.333
Okay, I'm just checking.

00:42:58.416 --> 00:43:06.141
Okay that when he asked me when I was 15, probably I don't remember what I want to do with my life.

00:43:06.222 --> 00:43:06.442
Yeah.

00:43:06.782 --> 00:43:12.186
And I was like I want to be a photographer, so I knew that all my life right.

00:43:12.186 --> 00:43:16.130
And he told me that's great, that's a great like hobby.

00:43:16.429 --> 00:43:18.052
But what do you?

00:43:18.072 --> 00:43:26.170
actually want to do, like what's going to be your future profession, like, yeah, you should choose something, like you should choose the university.

00:43:26.190 --> 00:43:30.063
It's like it's such a traditional way of what we do in russia and pretty much here.

00:43:30.063 --> 00:43:35.360
But I think people here pretty like chill about going to college after high school.

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:41.724
They could be, they could go to work and take a few years off after high school and then go to college in russia.

00:43:41.724 --> 00:43:49.460
It's really bad if you don't go anywhere after high school like you should go somewhere like college or university, whatever I don't know, it's just.

00:43:49.521 --> 00:44:01.697
It sounds like they have a very linear it's like society thing probably we don't have like it's such a small percent of people who don't go anywhere after high school, is it's almost impossible that you don't?

00:44:01.697 --> 00:44:11.184
Go anywhere, like every single person, somewhere goes and studies something, even though if he's not sure if he's gonna actually like this path later on?

00:44:11.403 --> 00:44:13.329
oh my gosh, yeah, how did you?

00:44:13.329 --> 00:44:13.976
Okay?

00:44:13.976 --> 00:44:15.378
When was it?

00:44:15.378 --> 00:44:22.958
Did it feel like a deflating moment when, um, your parents, especially your dad, telling you, yeah, that's great, but that's just a hobby you need to be.

00:44:22.958 --> 00:44:33.023
That's not going to guarantee success, because when we want, you know, as young creatives, we feel so empowered by what we love.

00:44:33.023 --> 00:44:48.166
But especially when it comes when we hear stuff like that from a figure, a parental figure, and hearing that it's like the only one person that you want to hear a full support from will be your parents out of the role model.

00:44:48.286 --> 00:44:57.507
Everybody else, yes, but to hear that yes, yeah, I know it kind of, I was probably unconsciously.

00:44:57.507 --> 00:45:03.146
I had this thought on my mind for such a long time like I, I think till the moment when I was in LA.

00:45:03.695 --> 00:45:34.764
So it was pretty much like three years ago it was, this thought was unconsciously in my mind somewhere, somewhere back there, holding me from starting doing photography again, because I was so I don't know, not sure that I still want to do that, if I'm still okay, if I still should pursue this path as a career, you know, and just hobby in general, because I was like I'm not sure if I'm still good enough, you know, and even like as a full-time job.

00:45:34.764 --> 00:45:39.809
I was thinking that's impossible because, like, who would make a lot of money being a photographer?

00:45:39.809 --> 00:45:52.768
That was my thought and this was my thought like much for probably 10 years, since my dad told me that and I think that actually stayed in my mind, of course, because he's my role model for sure, as a parent.

00:45:53.815 --> 00:46:00.489
And after I was just probably really drained after one season working just on a regular job.

00:46:00.489 --> 00:46:04.257
I remember I was like like I need to find a way express myself.

00:46:04.257 --> 00:46:07.443
I really want to do something, create whatever draw.

00:46:07.443 --> 00:46:23.469
I just was like, please, let me put my energy somewhere because, like I'm it's driving me crazy, I need to express myself right yeah and I remember I was like okay, what the hell the hell, I'm going to Best Buy, I'm buying a camera and that's it.

00:46:24.135 --> 00:46:33.476
And one day I just went there, I got a camera and I started taking pictures pretty much of everything and everyone.

00:46:33.476 --> 00:46:48.527
My friends and I was finding models through Instagram, texting them the idea with mood board, already created mood board and the idea of the session, and then they were answering me like we were doing beautiful sessions.

00:46:48.527 --> 00:46:50.882
I still love these sessions like so much.

00:46:50.994 --> 00:46:54.585
It's just such a good like I don't know such a good project.

00:46:54.585 --> 00:46:56.237
And yeah, I was.

00:46:56.237 --> 00:47:01.748
I remember my first feeling after shooting for such a long break.

00:47:01.748 --> 00:47:04.943
I don't know how to describe that.

00:47:04.943 --> 00:47:06.300
You probably have this feeling too.

00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:11.782
You're creating a lot and you know this feeling when you're like, okay, it's been a while that I didn't shoot.

00:47:11.782 --> 00:47:26.492
And you're shooting again and you're just like, oh, I remember right now why I love it, Because after you're coming home, you're putting this sd card in your laptop and you're just like okay, I'm so excited to see what's in there.

00:47:26.492 --> 00:47:28.844
I really wanted to see how it's gonna look afterwards.

00:47:28.844 --> 00:47:34.105
And I was just like sitting and working on pictures and yeah, it's just an amazing feeling.

00:47:34.105 --> 00:47:38.297
And I realized like I was just losing so much time for nothing.

00:47:38.297 --> 00:47:39.302
I don't know why.

00:47:39.302 --> 00:47:42.777
And I was just like, okay, I need to start doing something right now.

00:47:42.777 --> 00:47:50.438
Like I realized I need to start and going like faster, as I was walking before you know, like metaphorically.

00:47:50.960 --> 00:48:01.284
So I just started taking pictures a lot and, just you know, texting girls and boys on instagram, just like let's take pictures together, let's collaborate.

00:48:01.284 --> 00:48:04.250
I'll take a few beautiful pictures, we'll post it.

00:48:09.452 --> 00:48:14.356
And yeah just, annika, I have to say seriously, all the photos.

00:48:14.356 --> 00:48:25.396
I just want to let you know that all the photos that you put out, the work that you've literally invested into making every single project that you've put out, look as good as it can be, you're on the right path and you're on your way to.

00:48:25.396 --> 00:48:28.605
I'm not saying that to I know.

00:48:29.206 --> 00:48:29.728
I'm serious.

00:48:30.054 --> 00:48:39.623
Like seriously, I know it's really difficult to hear stuff like that with people that you thought would support you, but I just want to let you know that you're on the right path.

00:48:39.623 --> 00:48:49.702
You're getting closer to there and I'm sure your mom and your dad everybody will, will you know, turn around say you know what, I'm sorry, I didn't realize.

00:48:49.702 --> 00:48:52.067
I, I should have taken more.

00:48:52.067 --> 00:48:53.878
Uh, I should have paid more attention.

00:48:53.878 --> 00:48:59.800
And when you have, when you show them that you know what you're doing, that is a feeling that would you know.

00:49:00.882 --> 00:49:02.726
Yeah, so you're doing good.

00:49:02.726 --> 00:49:03.697
I just want to let you know.

00:49:03.697 --> 00:49:05.746
Okay, thank you, hell.

00:49:05.806 --> 00:49:16.018
Your freaking photos is the reason why I want to put you on here no, that's amazing, honestly, thank you for saying that, and I I don't actually, right now I don't have any like.

00:49:16.018 --> 00:49:26.065
I don't need any validation from my parents, even though I don't get a lot of compliments from them or they don't say much about my work.

00:49:26.065 --> 00:49:29.385
It's not that I'm waiting for something from them.

00:49:29.385 --> 00:49:30.639
I don't expect anything.

00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.005
Honestly, I already realized that I want to do that and I'm going to do that.

00:49:35.005 --> 00:49:37.103
I'm not waiting for anything from anyone.

00:49:37.516 --> 00:49:50.583
It's just like the only critic it's me and it's sitting in my head and it's not letting me post pictures on instagram and what the hell I should do that tonight I have so many projects that I want to post.

00:49:50.583 --> 00:49:59.981
So many projects that I want to post all for tonight, not tonight probably but I'll post something tonight, but not all you have a lot of good shit, bro.

00:50:00.001 --> 00:50:01.389
Again, guys, again, guys.

00:50:01.389 --> 00:50:04.635
Remember, follow her account, annika, which one is the name of?

00:50:04.896 --> 00:50:07.204
Annika, annika ph.

00:50:08.275 --> 00:50:09.501
Yes, follow.

00:50:09.842 --> 00:50:12.496
And you're Annika too, like it's two completely different.

00:50:12.496 --> 00:50:15.561
Whatever you like, just follow whatever you want.

00:50:16.295 --> 00:50:16.797
Support her.

00:50:16.797 --> 00:50:17.902
Please Do her journey.

00:50:17.902 --> 00:50:29.266
Okay, seriously, you're on the right path to greatness, but okay, so, like it's very brave that you don't search for that validation as well.

00:50:29.266 --> 00:50:30.429
I just want to let you know that too.

00:50:30.429 --> 00:50:39.311
And going into the projects, oh my gosh, now that you got your, you had the audacity to buy a camera from Best Buy.

00:50:39.311 --> 00:50:42.945
You walked in there with your head held high and high.

00:50:42.945 --> 00:50:46.434
Be like I'm getting this shit today and I'm gonna get started.

00:50:46.434 --> 00:50:51.666
I don't care about what y'all say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this, do this, do that.

00:50:51.666 --> 00:50:56.545
Now that you, now that you've done that, and the reality.

00:50:56.565 --> 00:50:59.793
I was just like oh my gosh, should I do that you?

00:50:59.793 --> 00:51:01.873
Were terrified a little yeah because yeah, because for me it was a lot of money back then and I was just like, oh my gosh, should I do that?

00:51:01.873 --> 00:51:02.148
You were terrified.

00:51:02.148 --> 00:51:02.539
A little yeah because.

00:51:02.539 --> 00:51:11.715
Yeah, because for me it was a lot of money back then and I was thinking like, should I invest that much money right now, you know, into the camera yeah, I was not like oh yeah, get me this camera.

00:51:12.195 --> 00:51:17.527
I was actually thinking like I was still doubting damn, really, even up to that point.

00:51:17.947 --> 00:51:18.489
What about now?

00:51:19.237 --> 00:51:20.480
no, no, that was right now.

00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.016
I got a new camera now, just like that.

00:51:23.016 --> 00:51:26.021
Yeah, give me that camera how do you work?

00:51:26.202 --> 00:51:29.047
how do you work through moments of doubt, bro?

00:51:29.148 --> 00:51:31.722
that shit is hard, it is really hard.

00:51:31.722 --> 00:51:45.485
I think it's the hardest part of being an artist and not doubting yourself yeah especially because we like to compare ourselves to other artists, and that's what I'm trying not to do, honestly, and I'm not even scrolling Instagram anymore.

00:51:45.485 --> 00:51:46.146
That's the thing.

00:51:46.146 --> 00:51:49.565
If I need to find something, I'm going there and I'm looking for something.

00:51:49.565 --> 00:51:52.123
I don't have time for scrolling.

00:51:52.123 --> 00:51:53.280
I don't have time for reels.

00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.101
I don't know how people find time for that.

00:51:55.563 --> 00:51:56.615
I know, it's just.

00:51:58.177 --> 00:51:59.639
Yes, no time for that.

00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:04.748
Five minutes you could have just put towards something that you could put actual work into.

00:52:04.748 --> 00:52:05.309
But go on.

00:52:12.094 --> 00:52:14.306
But I think, because I was comparing myself even before I started doing photography again.

00:52:14.306 --> 00:52:20.347
I was looking at the beautiful photographers and their pictures and I was thinking, oh, I can't do that.

00:52:20.347 --> 00:52:23.048
I'm so far behind right now.

00:52:23.048 --> 00:52:25.460
I'm so far behind right now, I'm so far behind right now.

00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:27.543
How can I be the same level, you know?

00:52:27.543 --> 00:52:30.224
And then I was thinking I don't have to be the same level.

00:52:30.224 --> 00:52:31.036
I was just.

00:52:31.036 --> 00:52:35.865
It's constant like dialogue in my mind.

00:52:35.865 --> 00:52:39.360
Probably that's the thing I'm always talking to myself.

00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:40.503
I'm a Gemini.

00:52:40.503 --> 00:52:43.967
I don't know if you have the same problems how does your, how does your thought process?

00:52:44.269 --> 00:52:48.248
uh, what is your thought process like when people say, anika, your word, I love it so much.

00:52:48.248 --> 00:52:52.521
But then you have this dialogue and you're like no, shut up, it looks terrible.

00:52:52.521 --> 00:52:54.708
I see the sploss this here, here and there.

00:52:54.708 --> 00:52:55.635
How does that?

00:52:56.076 --> 00:53:07.809
I I like to take compliments honestly if I like, even if I know the person, if it's my friend or family or anyone who's just texting me on Instagram.

00:53:07.809 --> 00:53:10.612
I take it as a compliment.

00:53:10.612 --> 00:53:12.822
Honestly, I'm not saying I'm shit Sorry.

00:53:13.916 --> 00:53:15.663
Oh, she just cursed for the first time.

00:53:15.663 --> 00:53:19.144
Oh bad yeah.

00:53:21.135 --> 00:53:26.514
But I'm not saying I don't deserve it okay of course we all have not.

00:53:26.514 --> 00:53:54.885
Okay, I'm not gonna say we all have, but I have imposter syndrome sometimes and I'm working on that too, and, um, I'm just trying to compliment myself too, you know, sometimes I'm just like, okay, great job, great job, that's a good work and when clients texting me back saying like that was beautiful, we love it, we were like, looking at these pictures and we were crying, you know, and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna cry right now too.

00:53:55.454 --> 00:54:00.826
Like it just makes me emotional, and when I make people emotional, it makes me emotional.

00:54:00.826 --> 00:54:14.811
So it's kind of synergy, we're exchanging energies and I think it works pretty well me like for me, like I'm pretty emotional person, empathetic to you and it's really hard for me not to like get close to my clients.

00:54:15.231 --> 00:54:43.139
I think it's a part like this part of me actually helps a lot in a lot of ways actually, because like when I see my couple and I'm reading the room yeah you know and I'm just reading a person in front of me, I know the way how to like, kind of start the conversation, how to find a way to like each different person, maybe because I was was assimilating in different groups when I was younger too.

00:54:44.155 --> 00:54:45.380
And it's not fake.

00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:46.344
It's not fake at all.

00:54:46.344 --> 00:54:48.001
It's just like it's part of me.

00:54:48.001 --> 00:54:56.746
Like I said, I accepted it and it helps me so much right now because I honestly I'm not bragging or something.

00:54:56.746 --> 00:55:02.621
It's just like for me it's the best thing to work with people, because I know how to work with people.

00:55:02.621 --> 00:55:04.159
I love working with people.

00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:12.561
I love the connection, because I know photographers would rather to work with like as a group, like they have a producer.

00:55:12.581 --> 00:55:25.842
Like a clique or what yeah like they have someone who's contacting the clients and they're doing the job, but for me it's such a crucial thing to have connection with the clients, so they know that I'm gonna take pictures.

00:55:25.842 --> 00:55:29.277
I'm this person who's gonna take care of everything for me.

00:55:29.277 --> 00:55:39.168
It's really hard to delegate, like anything really but yeah, but I still like because I need this connection with my clients I cannot delegate like emails or like phone calls.

00:55:39.315 --> 00:55:43.922
it's gonna be all on me, because I want them to know me first and I want to know them as well.

00:55:43.922 --> 00:55:47.905
I want to make sure that we have like this connection, you know.

00:55:48.416 --> 00:55:56.222
Well, have you thought about what, if you scale, you start bringing someone that you trust and even though there's, I knew listen.

00:55:56.222 --> 00:56:02.034
Delegating is really difficult, I know, but just walk through this with me for a second.

00:56:02.034 --> 00:56:06.119
Have you thought about that as an option in the future?

00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:07.003
Yeah, yeah.

00:56:07.775 --> 00:56:14.414
I would say that it would be so hard to find a person who would be like the same as me, probably.

00:56:14.414 --> 00:56:17.255
I'm just so picky to my work and everything.

00:56:17.255 --> 00:56:20.210
But I think later on that's possible.

00:56:20.210 --> 00:56:31.844
There is a possibility to grow into something bigger and maybe to have some people who work with me as a group like photographers if it's a big wedding or something.

00:56:32.536 --> 00:56:38.844
I'm open to big weddings as well and I think that's great when you have people with you as a second search shooter or whatever.

00:56:38.844 --> 00:56:52.286
I know there's a lot of big and huge weddings, like in the us and europe, anywhere pretty much, and they have like a big group of photographers like there's a lead photographer, of course, and, like I know just a story about one girl.

00:56:52.327 --> 00:56:58.644
She's from russia and she's doing like beautiful, huge weddings, like like 500, 2000 people.

00:56:58.644 --> 00:57:04.813
And it's not that I want this type of weddings, but it's possible.

00:57:04.813 --> 00:57:20.835
Those weddings are real and they have photographers, they have a lead photographer and they have this photographer hiring some other associates and there is 5 more photographers who are just taking pictures.

00:57:22.438 --> 00:57:31.186
How many pictures after the wedding day I I can't imagine but it reminds me of the movie the crazy rich asians, but go on, I watched it.

00:57:31.186 --> 00:57:36.226
Huh, you watched it, yeah I don't want a wedding like that.

00:57:36.666 --> 00:57:38.773
Oh, thank you yeah, that's a lot.

00:57:38.873 --> 00:57:44.000
That's a lot, I don't know really so you don't want to do that, or I would try that, what like?

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:51.706
I would try, because I've never done it before so I can't really say if I don't like it, you know see now, if you have multiple photographers, what did that mean?

00:57:51.746 --> 00:57:54.579
you lose like a sum of the level of.

00:57:55.041 --> 00:58:06.268
That's the thing you ask if I'll delegate, like in the future, when you're a top photographer and you know, like you're choosing the person who's gonna help you through the wedding and you trust this person.

00:58:06.268 --> 00:58:08.920
Of course it's not like some random person from the street.

00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:13.043
You're choosing, like you're seeing the work, and it's probably top photographers as well.

00:58:13.043 --> 00:58:19.907
You just work together yeah and, of course, at the end of the day, you're probably the one who's editing and putting yourself on this work.

00:58:21.431 --> 00:58:25.047
Wow, delegation, you don't okay, yeah that's a big delegation.

00:58:25.086 --> 00:58:32.532
Okay, we were talking about different stuff probably here, but okay, yeah, it was, it was tough, it was the toughest probably thing and it's.

00:58:32.532 --> 00:58:41.581
It's a different market completely yeah, and it's possible yeah I I'm sure that I want to try that at least once in my life, just to see if I like it.

00:58:41.581 --> 00:58:47.291
But I love intimate weddings like small weddings are my favorite which weddings?

00:58:47.693 --> 00:58:52.947
intimate weddings like small weddings so yeah, see those like crazy rich asian weddings.

00:58:52.947 --> 00:58:57.701
No, I don't want to, not that well see, that's just extravagant.

00:58:57.701 --> 00:58:59.686
Like, have you thought about doing destination weddings that?

00:58:59.815 --> 00:58:59.894
are.

00:58:59.894 --> 00:59:00.777
Oh yeah, I want that.

00:59:01.137 --> 00:59:02.340
Have you done it or you?

00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:02.539
work.

00:59:02.539 --> 00:59:05.344
No, actually next year not not in europe.

00:59:09.077 --> 00:59:09.639
I live in this.

00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:10.561
No, no, no.

00:59:10.561 --> 00:59:12.865
Destination wedding, not destined weddings.

00:59:12.865 --> 00:59:14.809
First of all, I love dust.

00:59:14.809 --> 00:59:17.099
Well, I don't like the beach, because I hate the beach.

00:59:17.099 --> 00:59:19.184
But what, dude?

00:59:19.184 --> 00:59:22.735
Okay, I'll take you a long story short, long story short.

00:59:22.735 --> 00:59:30.315
Every time I hang out with my friends to the beach or we go into the water or go into the pool, like picahuna park, I have to take out my hearing aids, and when I take out my hearing aids, I cannot hear anybody.

00:59:30.315 --> 00:59:34.226
Therefore, I'm rendered socially awkward because I don't know what they're saying.

00:59:34.447 --> 00:59:39.643
That's why, anyways, going to the beach you don't have to talk on the beach, huh, you don't have to talk okay.

00:59:39.684 --> 00:59:46.710
First of all, annika, if I go far, how am I supposed to know they're yelling me, that there's a?

00:59:46.710 --> 00:59:47.713
You know the shark attack?

00:59:47.713 --> 00:59:48.695
Okay, okay, we're gonna use this.

00:59:48.695 --> 00:59:48.976
Okay.

00:59:48.976 --> 00:59:51.443
Okay, I go with my friends.

00:59:51.443 --> 00:59:53.168
Okay, I take out my hearing aids.

00:59:53.168 --> 00:59:55.099
Okay, I'm like hey guys, I'm gonna go over there.

00:59:55.099 --> 00:59:57.686
I'm all the way over there and I look over there.

00:59:57.686 --> 01:00:00.621
They look like they're cheering to me, but I can't hear.

01:00:00.621 --> 01:00:05.028
They're like yeah, when in reality there's a freaking shark right there.

01:00:05.048 --> 01:00:09.367
I'm like yeah and I get you, come on no, absolutely not I.

01:00:09.507 --> 01:00:16.130
I don't want to no it's a bit of a struggle okay, yeah, I see that, but um shit, you didn't even lose, my thought.

01:00:16.130 --> 01:00:16.411
What was?

01:00:16.490 --> 01:00:24.449
it, oh yeah beach weddings, the destination weddings like uh, I'll lead into that, but weddings like the one in Dustin, the beach weddings, it's too formulaic.

01:00:24.449 --> 01:00:29.226
Here is the sand that represents love that I have for you.

01:00:29.226 --> 01:00:37.505
Each grain of the pebble in the sand represents the vast deepness of my love that I will share for you from now on.

01:00:37.505 --> 01:00:38.608
It's too formulaic.

01:00:38.608 --> 01:00:49.233
You pour the sand, you take photos, boo, with the sunset, cool but whereas destination wedding it's so, such an experience, so I don't.

01:00:49.233 --> 01:00:50.114
I guess what I'm asking.

01:00:50.114 --> 01:00:53.362
I'm asking.

01:00:53.362 --> 01:00:56.307
What I'm asking is what does an ideal wedding look like for you?

01:00:56.795 --> 01:01:00.266
okay, but firstly I need to uh comment on something.

01:01:00.266 --> 01:01:08.956
Uh, for someone this national wedding isn't destined, you see yeah like some people coming here for this national wedding have you thought about that.

01:01:08.956 --> 01:01:14.188
There's a lot of people like all these people who are having weddings here.

01:01:14.335 --> 01:01:20.123
They don't live here okay, you know what you're right, I'm sorry, maybe Okay, I did not think of that.

01:01:20.284 --> 01:01:20.603
Okay.

01:01:21.344 --> 01:01:22.947
Oh, I'm sorry your.

01:01:22.947 --> 01:01:24.469
Your sand is very meaningful.

01:01:26.614 --> 01:01:30.079
And they take this and it's really sweet.

01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:31.943
That's what my clients do, okay.

01:01:32.302 --> 01:01:32.844
I did not.

01:01:32.844 --> 01:01:35.047
You're the first person to actually made me think that way.

01:01:35.047 --> 01:01:37.369
I'm so sorry Now to change my perspective.

01:01:37.369 --> 01:01:39.217
That's okay.

01:01:39.217 --> 01:01:41.362
Your money is worth investing.

01:01:41.583 --> 01:01:47.422
Come to dustin, come to dustin, come to santa rosa, ellis beach, where you can shoot.

01:01:47.422 --> 01:01:50.867
Um, yeah, so my ideal wedding.

01:01:50.867 --> 01:02:02.429
Um, I would say it's not exactly ideal wedding, but it's more ideal clients if I could say, because I don't care how your wedding is going to look.

01:02:02.775 --> 01:02:05.081
It's more, I don't care where it's going to be.

01:02:05.081 --> 01:02:05.945
How many people.

01:02:05.945 --> 01:02:29.186
Once I connect with a couple and we have this phone call or video call and we're talking through all the details, they're telling me what they see're like, how they visual their day special day yeah and um, I'm telling them about myself and about my experience and how everything works from my side.

01:02:30.007 --> 01:02:42.768
And if we have this connection, like if they are telling me oh, we love your work, we want you to shoot our wedding, and only you, because your style represents our love, like that's what.

01:02:42.768 --> 01:02:48.574
That's how we want to see our wedding pictures just through your lens and I've had this experience.

01:02:48.715 --> 01:02:59.436
People were saying that to me and it's the most amazing feeling, honestly, because I don't want people to choose me because of my price, because of something else, because I was available, the only me, or something.

01:02:59.436 --> 01:03:10.224
I want them to choose me because of my work and because they like my editing, not because they want, like, just the raw pictures and edit themselves after that you know, like change everything.

01:03:10.746 --> 01:03:14.722
No, I want them to choose me because they love my work and it's just.

01:03:14.722 --> 01:03:33.375
They see themselves through like my work and when it's like that, once I hear this phrase or I'm realizing that's the couple the couple, the couple okay um, yeah, after that I was like, whatever you're gonna do, I'll really love it.

01:03:33.375 --> 01:03:48.856
You know, like I don't care, it's gonna be like florist planner, whatever, like I will help you go through that because I'm the one who's taking care of the like visual part of your day you don't have to think about anything else like like I don't know.

01:03:48.936 --> 01:03:56.498
Whatever you want to like see through your day, whatever, like um final result that you want to get, let me know now.

01:03:56.498 --> 01:03:59.065
I'll be prepared, I'll get everything.

01:03:59.065 --> 01:04:00.427
What I like, I'll.

01:04:00.427 --> 01:04:03.856
I'll take so many pictures like so many good pictures.

01:04:03.856 --> 01:04:15.277
I'm not talking about overshooting, which is not bad too, but still I'll take all these pictures and you'll have every single picture of the most like precious moments, pretty much so.

01:04:15.277 --> 01:04:16.137
That's the thing.

01:04:16.137 --> 01:04:20.164
For me, it's more like about the couple than just wedding in general.

01:04:20.164 --> 01:04:29.626
Of course, it's nice to have a couple when they have a planner, they have everything organized, and it's pretty nice because you don't have to worry about anything.

01:04:29.626 --> 01:04:38.704
Because there is a small wedding too when they don't have, for example, a planner or florist or anything like that, and it's fine too.

01:04:38.704 --> 01:04:40.346
Some people don't want that and it's not specifically a.

01:04:40.346 --> 01:04:47.637
Some people don't want that and it's not like, it's not specifically financial thing that they worry about, it's just like their choice, which is fine too.

01:04:48.460 --> 01:05:05.884
I'm more concentrated if these are my people you take the personal connection to your clients too hard because you're literally there from start to finish and, yeah, wow, guys, if you want to hire someone that really truly cares about your wedding, you know it takes.

01:05:05.884 --> 01:05:15.126
It takes a lot of that kind of level of care and wanting to get them because it's the most intimate and, uh, personal day for them.

01:05:15.126 --> 01:05:27.427
A lot of photographers at least for the ones that just want to get the money, they don't just see that he's yeah five thousand dollars nice, but it's the fact that you put in you taking the time to do that for them.

01:05:27.648 --> 01:05:31.581
I think that's a really good thing for you to do for them.

01:05:31.601 --> 01:05:46.885
Yes and, uh, I care as much as them during the wedding, honestly, and I think it's that's why I told you empathetic part of me, that's why it helps me through my work, because I think couples, those couples they feel it too.

01:05:46.885 --> 01:05:51.579
That's why they want me to like actually shoot their wedding.

01:05:51.579 --> 01:05:55.855
They want me to capture it, not someone else after like phone call or something.

01:05:55.855 --> 01:05:58.541
Even if they'll decide it's not me, it's fine too too.

01:05:58.541 --> 01:06:02.528
I'm okay with saying no, it's fine with me totally.

01:06:02.528 --> 01:06:06.304
I'm even saying to them you don't have to choose right now.

01:06:06.304 --> 01:06:07.800
Don't choose me right away.

01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.583
If you want to search the market or something, do that.

01:06:10.583 --> 01:06:13.503
You're so free in your actions.

01:06:13.503 --> 01:06:17.346
I just want you to understand I'll do everything.

01:06:17.346 --> 01:06:20.043
But if you understand it's not me, it's totally fine too.

01:06:20.494 --> 01:06:23.222
I wish you an amazing day Like it's because it's your wedding.

01:06:23.222 --> 01:06:30.166
If it will be me, like I'm fully responsible for all visual part of the day and I'll do everything.

01:06:30.166 --> 01:06:31.588
So it works perfectly.

01:06:31.588 --> 01:06:49.065
Of course, sometimes my empathetic like part is just like it's not that I take a lot of things like too close, but when I go through the day I think I'm having the same emotions as a bride, because I was, like I'm, so emotional at every part of the wedding.

01:06:49.065 --> 01:06:59.612
Still, I don't know, maybe it will go away eventually, but even right now, with proposals, I'm showing so many proposals right now and maybe it's really bad.

01:06:59.612 --> 01:07:03.137
Maybe it's a bad advertisement right now, but when but?

01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:05.043
when guy actually kneeling and proposing to a girlfriend.

01:07:05.043 --> 01:07:06.788
I'm just starting shaking.

01:07:06.788 --> 01:07:10.822
I'm just like please say yes, oh no, yes, I'm really excited.

01:07:10.822 --> 01:07:19.005
It's like, um, like happy anxiety yeah like it goes through my body and I'm like a little shaky and happy and I'm just like almost right.

01:07:19.005 --> 01:07:25.362
Yeah, that's, I'm that I'm really empathetic and sometimes it's really hard because, like after wedding day.

01:07:25.925 --> 01:07:45.527
I'm coming home and I'm sitting at least 10 minutes in the car yeah because, like I need time to like come back like you know, because I'm just like I'm still there and I need time to go back to the normal me because, like, I can't bring it home too, because for me it's like wedding hangover, if you heard about that.

01:07:47.817 --> 01:07:47.856
No.

01:07:48.157 --> 01:07:49.699
There's a thing as a wedding hangover.

01:07:50.021 --> 01:07:51.003
Wedding hangover.

01:07:51.143 --> 01:07:51.704
Hangover.

01:07:51.704 --> 01:08:02.072
Oh okay, it's not that you're drinking, it's just like when you're working as a vendor at the wedding you probably have it, especially if you're a photographer or videographer.

01:08:02.072 --> 01:08:07.922
You're like on the next day you're feeling like you have a hangover, actual hangover.

01:08:08.164 --> 01:08:09.447
Oh, okay, okay, I got that.

01:08:09.447 --> 01:08:11.518
Yeah, lots of hangovers.

01:08:11.778 --> 01:08:13.844
Woo, yeah, okay go on.

01:08:13.844 --> 01:08:23.636
And the next day usually I don't have energy for anything, like I'm just laying in a bed and just like I need time.

01:08:23.636 --> 01:08:26.963
I need to time to, I need time to recharge because I gave so much I.

01:08:26.963 --> 01:08:34.283
I got some energy back, but I still it's still not enough energy to like to go do.

01:08:34.283 --> 01:08:40.260
Yeah, just to go and do, like my something, what I do in the day you know, like go to the gym.

01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:47.417
I cannot go to the gym the next day because I'm just like you're just emotionally exhausted from, even though it's such a great environment.

01:08:47.417 --> 01:08:55.942
Yes, absolutely it's, maybe, maybe it's a good feeling just to give yourself time to recharge yeah it's really good.

01:08:55.981 --> 01:08:58.287
You don't need to ignore that.

01:08:58.287 --> 01:09:04.538
I believe you should like feel your body and listen to your body whenever you feel like I can do that.

01:09:04.538 --> 01:09:05.600
Just don't do that.

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:06.662
Give yourself time.

01:09:06.662 --> 01:09:08.506
Just relax for a second.

01:09:08.506 --> 01:09:12.220
Go for a walk, like vitamin d, whatever gym.

01:09:12.220 --> 01:09:12.802
Gym is good.

01:09:12.802 --> 01:09:17.560
Gym is good gym is great gym is great to relax or yoga, whatever it's.

01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:27.426
Uh, that's what helps me, but yeah this day after the wedding is crucial for me, like I'm just wait the day after or the day after oh, oh man.

01:09:27.645 --> 01:09:35.618
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of uh creatives tend to forget their self-care after doing such emotional taxing yeah and fiscal, fiscally taxing day.

01:09:35.618 --> 01:09:36.421
They don't.

01:09:36.421 --> 01:09:38.145
It's like they go straight to work.

01:09:38.145 --> 01:09:43.057
The fact that you have that system in place such a healthy thing that I think we're all jealous of.

01:09:43.498 --> 01:09:46.585
Wow, annika wow, I'm so jealous.

01:09:46.585 --> 01:09:53.345
Right now I'm still working on that, okay, okay, but the fact that you are openly working towards that.

01:09:53.626 --> 01:09:55.615
For some of us, like now, I don't need that.

01:09:55.615 --> 01:09:59.824
I'm just gonna work, work, work, work that I can't do that you are one.

01:09:59.824 --> 01:10:02.235
You're ahead of the curve when it comes to the self-care.

01:10:02.336 --> 01:10:09.569
Shut up, shut up but honestly, even like gym, gym time, right, okay, I wouldn't do that.

01:10:09.569 --> 01:10:17.804
I wouldn't go through 10 hour wedding without gym exercises and everything through the year, because like I'm exercising not just for like health and the future.

01:10:17.804 --> 01:10:18.244
I want to.

01:10:18.244 --> 01:10:19.738
I want it when I will be old.

01:10:19.738 --> 01:10:24.481
I want to be fit, I want to like move a lot, you know that's, that's my main goal.

01:10:24.641 --> 01:10:26.046
I want mobility in my body.

01:10:26.046 --> 01:10:27.087
I want to like.

01:10:27.087 --> 01:10:35.279
I don't want to have like pain in my knees or something, even though I have my knees are cracking already, but it's not the thing.

01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:42.261
Um, but still, I think a gym helps me like especially when you're doing squats or something like that.

01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:53.444
It's crucial for photographer and videographer to go to the gym because you're like having this like gear and you're walking all day long and your back is just screaming.

01:10:53.444 --> 01:11:04.234
Please do something because like it's so like unfair to your body to ignore the fact that you're like all day working and like holding this camera.

01:11:04.234 --> 01:11:08.246
It's so heavy and you don't work out like on your regular days.

01:11:08.326 --> 01:11:08.567
Yeah.

01:11:08.734 --> 01:11:09.639
It's really hard.

01:11:09.639 --> 01:11:10.925
Like you should do that.

01:11:11.145 --> 01:11:12.229
Dude, yeah, all right.

01:11:13.855 --> 01:11:19.422
At least massages, at least some yoga, like stretching, whatever, like it could be at least 15 minutes a day.

01:11:19.422 --> 01:11:25.266
It's just going to like make such a huge impact in your life, especially professional life too.

01:11:25.287 --> 01:11:32.567
I think I've already, I'm already starting to feel my back hurting, hurting, oh really it's not so castle.

01:11:32.587 --> 01:11:43.618
But I just heard I mean it's obvious, you're sitting a lot, you're editing, you're walking and working like with cameras really I didn't know I was doing that we're all doing that.

01:11:43.618 --> 01:11:48.809
That's the thing, like no wonder you have a bad day, wow I had.

01:11:49.115 --> 01:12:08.591
No, completely I did not know you were doing just that okay, we're doing sarcastic things together right now can you walk us through a story a a favorite story of yours, where you had an awesome client and how that experience has left you so emotionally happy with the outcome of that specific project?

01:12:09.735 --> 01:12:12.761
It's so hard because, like Pick, one Manica.

01:12:12.761 --> 01:12:15.162
Okay, Jess pick one.

01:12:15.162 --> 01:12:17.217
I love all my clients.

01:12:17.217 --> 01:12:19.565
Pick one.

01:12:19.565 --> 01:12:23.246
Okay, I think it was my first couple session.

01:12:23.246 --> 01:12:39.737
I still remember that and it was a couple and I'm just so grateful for all my clients, but my first clients, like for a couple session, engagement session it's just so amazing that they chose me Because, like I didn't have a big portfolio back then for a couple session Like.

01:12:39.957 --> 01:12:53.426
I started doing couples and weddings and families only here in florida I didn't do that like back in los angeles and back in russia too, because in los angeles I was doing mostly like solo portraits fashion and things like that.

01:12:53.426 --> 01:12:59.275
That makes sense yeah, but here's market is different, right, like people want different things.

01:12:59.275 --> 01:13:08.944
People are coming here to have couple sessions, engagements, weddings, families, and it's all that, and I just started doing that and I loved it pretty much.

01:13:08.944 --> 01:13:10.618
And my first couple.

01:13:10.618 --> 01:13:16.389
I remember they got an engagement session.

01:13:16.649 --> 01:13:16.890
Yeah.

01:13:17.476 --> 01:13:19.063
And it was just really beautiful.

01:13:19.063 --> 01:13:22.350
It was not a proposal or anything, it just it was in Rosemary Beach.

01:13:22.350 --> 01:13:24.578
It was not a proposal or anything, it just it was in Rosemary Beach.

01:13:24.578 --> 01:13:27.881
And such a beautiful couple, they were so nice.

01:13:27.881 --> 01:13:38.042
We just had this connection instantly you know, just no words needed, just went through all the sessions, just so fun, like we were popping the champagne in the end.

01:13:38.042 --> 01:13:43.583
Yeah, I'm still using these pictures, actually like for some like pricing guides and everything.

01:13:43.623 --> 01:13:43.845
Wow, okay.

01:13:44.536 --> 01:13:54.970
And I just remember like how happy I was that I actually loved shooting with couples because I didn't think that I would like it.

01:13:55.394 --> 01:13:55.595
Really.

01:13:55.916 --> 01:14:10.238
When I moved here, I was thinking, okay, market is different, I need to change what I shoot now, because I was shooting mostly portraits in Los Angeles Right now we'll see how it's going to work out for me and the way they chose me.

01:14:10.238 --> 01:14:12.886
I was like, okay, yeah, let's try.

01:14:12.886 --> 01:14:15.141
And I loved it.

01:14:15.141 --> 01:14:23.274
I loved being a part of people who are in love, because when people are truly in love, you can see it like, you can feel it.

01:14:23.274 --> 01:14:42.438
It's just um, being a part of it and you're just so close to them when you're shooting and just such an intimate moments and, uh, when I like it was like an hour and a half session, probably it was a one hour session, but we were shooting for almost two hours, I think because I was just like let's, let's take these pictures.

01:14:42.497 --> 01:14:47.000
I was just so excited and, um, I remember at the end I edited everything.

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:52.479
In the end it was like probably 500 pictures, like full gallery, and I sent it all.

01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:58.822
I was just like I don't care, like get all these pictures and yeah, I think it's this one.

01:14:58.822 --> 01:15:03.969
I was pretty emotional on this one because I realized at this moment that I want to do that.

01:15:04.970 --> 01:15:05.650
Oh, wow, yeah.

01:15:05.954 --> 01:15:09.746
I want to do a couple sessions and shooting love stories.

01:15:09.746 --> 01:15:13.283
Love stories are like one of my favorites now, actually.

01:15:13.323 --> 01:15:13.975
You know what I'm?

01:15:13.975 --> 01:15:20.509
Jealous that you could say that, because every time I hear a love story, I'm just like wow, you are so in love, aren't you too?

01:15:21.719 --> 01:15:23.065
Wow, you're're gonna get married.

01:15:23.065 --> 01:15:26.681
Oh my god, yeah, I'm just jaded with that much.

01:15:26.721 --> 01:15:36.797
So, yeah, I actually have a question after doing so many love stories, have you been able to identify parts of what you've seen other people's love towards your self-care?

01:15:37.057 --> 01:15:38.640
maybe, yes, I would even.

01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:48.082
I would even say seeing people love and it's not always the same love, right, Some couples for them.

01:15:48.082 --> 01:15:52.556
It's really hard to open up the first session for a stranger, and I totally get it.

01:15:52.556 --> 01:16:07.389
They don't have to be my best friends or something, but I want them to feel comfortable, I want them to trust me, and when I get to this point, then when they trust me, I'm just like oh yes, I can feel it.

01:16:07.408 --> 01:16:16.420
They are laughing, they're having fun, and that's what I want, honestly, and I'm creating those scenarios and we're having fun and I'm shooting like, like a movie and their main characters.

01:16:16.420 --> 01:16:19.546
That's what I want that's that's, that's it.

01:16:19.546 --> 01:16:29.238
You know like, and uh, once I'm getting to this point when we can actually shoot something intimate, more than just like oh, put your hand here, put your hand there.

01:16:29.238 --> 01:16:36.661
Um, yeah, I'm just like okay, from this moment we're gonna take pictures yeah, oh my gosh, now we're gonna flip the script here.

01:16:36.841 --> 01:16:42.015
Okay, can you walk us to a time where you learned a valuable lesson through a mistake?

01:16:42.015 --> 01:16:49.679
Oh yes, uh going forward disclaimer uh, the persons that have now been mentioned in this story is, uh, fake.

01:16:49.679 --> 01:16:55.537
And to protect your identity and to protect your business, continue if you are about to drop names.

01:16:55.617 --> 01:17:35.226
I'm just oh yeah, of course I just want to protect your business thank you, I don't think I'll drop any names, honestly, maybe because I don't remember all the names but, yeah, I don't hold like anger or anything against people, even if, like something bad happened before, like any bad experience, it's really hard to remember like actually bad experience, but I would say I had an experience which is not bad I just this person who believes like every experience is crucial and necessarily, like you cannot grow without experience okay even like with, if you cannot grow without failure.

01:17:35.426 --> 01:17:39.462
I would say that, like that, like you need all these failures, failures.

01:17:39.962 --> 01:17:41.546
Failures, failures.

01:17:41.706 --> 01:17:43.009
Failures, failures.

01:17:43.216 --> 01:17:45.829
I gotta say your accent throughout the entire episode.

01:17:45.829 --> 01:17:46.273
It's just.

01:17:46.273 --> 01:17:53.324
It's so interesting to listen to, like with the hearing I wish people.

01:17:53.324 --> 01:18:00.041
It's so hard to explain to people with hearing hearing aids like there are so many accents like the british, the british accent.

01:18:00.041 --> 01:18:07.255
I'm like, oh gosh, if you go to the bar and I've had someone just talking up in the british accent, I'm not gonna order anything, I'm just gonna.

01:18:07.255 --> 01:18:08.076
Can you?

01:18:08.076 --> 01:18:09.337
Can you read the appetizer?

01:18:09.438 --> 01:18:10.880
yeah, I love it too.

01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:34.228
Honestly, english accent's so good but I have to say your accent is just, it's so intriguing intriguing when I can say failure failure failure failure god so you said something about failure, scott yes, I think it's such a necessary thing to go through that, because you cannot grow without that.

01:18:34.635 --> 01:18:40.646
I believe that if there is a stagnation, if you have a stagnation as an artist, you don't have growth.

01:18:41.148 --> 01:18:41.349
Yes.

01:18:42.074 --> 01:18:48.905
Only by making those mistakes, going through different and really hard maybe, paths through your career.

01:18:48.905 --> 01:18:54.320
I would say you cannot grow without that.

01:18:55.122 --> 01:18:56.327
Great yes.

01:18:58.940 --> 01:19:07.967
I've been through a lot of good experiences and I would say I don't have really bad stories that I could share.

01:19:07.967 --> 01:19:12.805
It's just so funny because actually I have fun stories.

01:19:12.805 --> 01:19:21.694
It just some of these stories um bad because, like my fault there is, there's a lot of my faults, okay.

01:19:21.694 --> 01:19:31.118
Uh, like I had one project, really interesting project for a brand we're supposed to shoot, like for a new loungewear.

01:19:31.118 --> 01:19:34.759
Okay, it was super cool, like and intriguing for me.

01:19:34.759 --> 01:19:44.323
I started like doing model scouting, location scouting, that in this location transferred to new york, and I was like, yeah, we'll travel to new york, right?

01:19:44.344 --> 01:19:48.118
yeah, it's so good and I was just like yeah, let's do it.

01:19:48.118 --> 01:19:56.201
And I created like a huge pdf file with like models that I found like location, scouting everything.

01:19:56.201 --> 01:19:58.628
There was like every single detail there.

01:19:58.628 --> 01:20:01.438
So I made all this preparation, took me hours.

01:20:01.438 --> 01:20:14.060
You know like it's really hard to find models that would like actually represent your brand like I need to understand the brand to find the models and like it's a huge research, but I have a marketing degree so it kind of helped me too.

01:20:14.395 --> 01:20:19.104
Like it helps me to work with brands, but anyway, this session canceled.

01:20:20.336 --> 01:20:21.585
Oh, it does sound like a punchline.

01:20:21.645 --> 01:20:29.699
I know what you're laughing at, yeah, but it was just like I understand the part of like this situation is on me because, like we didn't have a contract.

01:20:31.164 --> 01:20:31.345
No.

01:20:31.345 --> 01:20:37.479
Oh, no Don situation is on me because, like we didn't have a contract.

01:20:37.498 --> 01:20:38.360
Uh no, oh no, don't work without contracts.

01:20:38.360 --> 01:20:43.158
No, always have a contract, even if it's your like friends of friends of family or anyone else, always have a contract.

01:20:43.158 --> 01:20:58.667
Oh no, yeah, I know, it was really like I was really excited about this project and then it was just like yeah, sorry, like this guy who's owner of this like brand, he already had a session with someone else.

01:20:58.688 --> 01:21:12.752
Oh man, all that work uh, and only to find out it's like uh I was wondering if they actually used my like research I would love them to use my research bro, if they did that I would be livid dude.

01:21:12.972 --> 01:21:15.920
I can't imagine the number of hours you put into doing that.

01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:21.998
I would be pretty livid if you saw that sex, same person with the exact same vision that you had.

01:21:21.998 --> 01:21:24.505
So just some contracts, guys.

01:21:24.505 --> 01:21:26.577
Um, make sure you have the revisions clause.

01:21:26.577 --> 01:21:28.882
Uh, make sure you have all the um.

01:21:28.882 --> 01:21:31.167
Do you have yours in the contract where?

01:21:31.167 --> 01:21:34.135
Um?

01:21:34.135 --> 01:21:34.896
Make sure you have all the um.

01:21:34.896 --> 01:21:37.921
Do you have yours in the contract where you own the photos but you they own the deliverables.

01:21:37.981 --> 01:21:38.203
What?

01:21:38.203 --> 01:21:43.338
Yeah, so I own photos like uh, it's my photos, but they have the right to print those pictures.

01:21:43.880 --> 01:22:03.158
They could do pretty much whatever, but they can use these pictures to advertise something so they can get money out of these pictures you know like if they have something, some product or anything like, for example, like if it's a couple session or anything they can put, they cannot use those pictures for advertising anything because they will get money out of it.

01:22:03.158 --> 01:22:12.917
Like if they want to do that, like if they have like their goal to have some money out of those pictures, we need to go through that and change the contract then.

01:22:13.238 --> 01:22:20.521
So that's going to be different negotiation completely okay, is there, uh, speaking of the uh the photos to how you deliver?

01:22:20.521 --> 01:22:21.667
Are there any?

01:22:21.667 --> 01:22:22.831
Is there anything that you do?

01:22:22.831 --> 01:22:31.385
That's uh special for the couples because I remember when I did okay, I did my first wedding, it was, uh, it was just literally across my house.

01:22:31.385 --> 01:22:44.068
Okay, I got drunk with the bridesmaid and they had to drive me home you're shooting the wedding and you get what a video camera.

01:22:44.149 --> 01:23:00.655
I was like I was doing like yeah, but anyways there's a reason why there's a reason why, um, I felt so embarrassed, but, whatever, one of the things that I did, um, to make it more special when it comes to deliver, delivering their, uh, what they're looking for.

01:23:00.655 --> 01:23:13.559
I actually ordered a wooden box filled with, like, uh, broken pieces of wood and a usb in the middle and a handwritten letter saying thank you, and that's how I delivered when I was doing weddings.

01:23:13.559 --> 01:23:15.684
That's how I delivered to the clients.

01:23:15.684 --> 01:23:19.283
Now, is there anything that you do to make it more special for them?

01:23:19.583 --> 01:23:26.704
oh, that's that's so great that you started talking about that, because I'm working on that right now I don't have anything like special like that yet.

01:23:26.704 --> 01:23:39.591
But I've seen um other photographers actually creating like those for their future, even future clients, not even past clients to send them a gallery or something like prints or anything.

01:23:42.859 --> 01:23:51.055
It's for the future couples who you're going to shoot with in the future, like weddings pretty much, and it's a box with some small presents or something.

01:23:51.055 --> 01:23:52.712
And I was like, okay, that's an interesting idea pretty much, and it's like a box with, like, some small presents or something.

01:23:52.712 --> 01:23:57.905
And I I like I was like, okay, that's interesting idea, like it's really nice because it's part of your personal brand too.

01:23:57.905 --> 01:24:02.045
They'll remember about you, they'll probably post it on instagram, they'll tag you.

01:24:02.045 --> 01:24:14.025
It's like advertisement, but it's like it's nice because you're still building relationship with this couple and they would love this kind of attention and especially if it's sincere and you already like each other.

01:24:14.025 --> 01:24:18.440
You're like they chose you, you chose them and you're sending them a present.

01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:31.962
They're really touched of course it's a nice start to building a relationship with clients because they will like feel that you're not just interested, like you said, in money, like you'd be like, oh, just five thousand and I'll go you know, I'll forget about.

01:24:31.962 --> 01:24:38.838
You know you're putting attention into like every detail through all the process and it's really interesting.

01:24:38.838 --> 01:24:39.900
I think I would do that.

01:24:39.900 --> 01:24:56.789
I don't think I'm at the point right now where I'm getting um financially, when I'm getting as much money that I can put like invest money into boxes, like with presents yeah but I think eventually, when my pricing is going to change, uh, I will do that.

01:24:56.909 --> 01:25:01.282
I think it's something that I would do, that honestly well with the marketing.

01:25:01.442 --> 01:25:09.386
I mean, it makes sense like if you want, uh put, if you want to push a brand to at least make yourself stand out, I think that's one way to do it.

01:25:09.386 --> 01:25:13.600
But you're you, you're a big girl, you got your own business, you do what you want to do.

01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:18.115
All right, guys, we're almost out of time, so we're going to run through this.

01:25:18.115 --> 01:25:21.042
Uh, we're going to have you on another episode.

01:25:21.042 --> 01:25:22.104
Is that a yes or no?

01:25:22.645 --> 01:25:25.819
oh yes, oh my gosh, did you hear that?

01:25:26.260 --> 01:25:31.981
wait for part two in the near future part two, but unfortunately for this episode we're almost running out of time.

01:25:31.981 --> 01:25:34.881
Uh, so we're gonna run through the remaining questions.

01:25:34.881 --> 01:25:40.282
We'll save the rest for the part two, but okay so ah, so many questions.

01:25:40.521 --> 01:25:41.224
I know I want to.

01:25:41.224 --> 01:25:42.567
I want to share all the information.

01:25:42.567 --> 01:25:49.661
I hate when people gatekeeping like it's just such a like i't know.

01:25:49.661 --> 01:26:02.435
I feel in this industry and in pretty much any industry there's like I don't believe in gatekeeping because if you think that we're all competitors, it's not going to work Again.

01:26:02.435 --> 01:26:14.639
Like you know those videos, or even like I had this experience when you had a session and there's a few photographers they're shooting the same models, the same people the same weather conditions, pretty much everything.

01:26:14.639 --> 01:26:15.060
The same.

01:26:15.715 --> 01:26:20.042
And outcome is different, such different final results.

01:26:20.042 --> 01:26:25.345
Because you again have different experience, background, everything and you have.

01:26:25.345 --> 01:26:30.407
Why would you gatekeep things from other people, especially the ones who are just starting out?

01:26:30.407 --> 01:26:33.944
Because where would you get this information?

01:26:33.944 --> 01:26:35.921
Like people should share information.

01:26:35.921 --> 01:26:40.367
Like, how would you grow without sharing with people and without people sharing with you?

01:26:40.367 --> 01:26:44.525
You know if it's going to be oh, I know this and I'll not tell anyone.

01:26:44.525 --> 01:26:46.280
Like, no, it's not going to work.

01:26:46.280 --> 01:26:49.180
Like that, like if you're not okay to share, okay, like, sit silence, like and don't do anything.

01:26:49.180 --> 01:26:55.980
But you're not okay to share, okay, like, sit silence, like and don't do anything, but you're not going to grow too.

01:26:55.980 --> 01:27:00.006
Because only by synergy we can help each other and grow together.

01:27:00.006 --> 01:27:03.786
Then you will stay there at the same level, just by gatekeeping.

01:27:03.786 --> 01:27:05.240
And what are you getting from it?

01:27:05.240 --> 01:27:08.524
Like you're not getting more clients by gatekeeping.

01:27:08.524 --> 01:27:10.261
You know, like it's not how it works.

01:27:10.261 --> 01:27:11.304
Market doesn't work like that.

01:27:15.675 --> 01:27:17.947
So you believe and give them back and that's how you build community with the people that you want to work with.

01:27:17.947 --> 01:27:20.917
I believe, like our artist community, like photographers community, should be more like friendly.

01:27:20.917 --> 01:27:26.496
I'm not saying like not, people are not friendly, but people are not friendly.

01:27:26.496 --> 01:27:31.244
But, uh, some people are actually gatekeeping and and it's fine too, I guess.

01:27:31.244 --> 01:27:33.989
Just go to another person if you have questions.

01:27:34.255 --> 01:27:39.466
Like if someone has questions, check like my Instagram, text me or anything Like.

01:27:39.466 --> 01:27:40.148
I will answer you.

01:27:40.148 --> 01:27:47.314
But I would say like, if you want to start, like for you said, like this podcast for people who wants to start.

01:27:47.493 --> 01:27:47.635
Yeah.

01:27:47.734 --> 01:27:54.193
Because all of that, like we talked before, it was my background and my like don't know, like my thoughts on things.

01:27:54.193 --> 01:28:09.457
But if you want to start, I would say, just practice more, don't be afraid of experimenting with different techniques, style and talk to people, go to stranger and ask to take a picture.

01:28:09.457 --> 01:28:31.523
It's such a good exercise to work, like with your communication skills, because if you want to work with people, like with weddings, couples, just portraits, solo, whatever you just need to find this strength, because for some people it's really hard to go and actually go and ask a stranger like would you like to have some pictures.

01:28:31.523 --> 01:28:33.119
It's a really good exercise.

01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.421
I'm still doing that, honestly, if I see people on the beach.

01:28:36.421 --> 01:28:44.764
It recently happened I was shooting family and they wanted just 20 minutes and I was like we have 40, why would you leave?

01:28:44.764 --> 01:28:47.983
And they're just like no, we're fine, we're going to watch the sunset.

01:28:47.983 --> 01:28:51.764
And I was like, okay, if you're happy already, they were happy like 100%.

01:28:51.783 --> 01:28:53.127
They got their pictures and everything.

01:28:53.127 --> 01:29:05.556
But I was just like it's such a beautiful sunset and I saw a group of girls running on the beach in such vibrant, colorful dresses and I was just like I'll go and check if they need any pictures.

01:29:05.556 --> 01:29:08.125
And I was like girls, do you want any pictures?

01:29:08.125 --> 01:29:14.382
I'm a photographer and I just had a session and I have time like five, 10 minutes before sunset goes down.

01:29:14.382 --> 01:29:17.173
And they were just like, oh, yes, yes, let's do it.

01:29:17.194 --> 01:29:30.780
And we were just shooting for five, 10 minutes and they were so happy, I made them so happy and I was just like, oh my gosh, they made me happy too, and pictures were great and they were running on the beach and there was sand on them and it was so great.

01:29:30.780 --> 01:29:33.608
Honestly, I believe like you should do that.

01:29:33.608 --> 01:29:40.685
You should like see, like, go to your fears, like, honestly, you're going to get so much from that.

01:29:40.685 --> 01:29:46.068
Like just of going and doing, not just sitting and comparing yourself to other photographers.

01:29:46.068 --> 01:29:48.764
You should go and start doing something.

01:29:48.764 --> 01:29:55.840
Action is the way to grow, like action is the way to failure and to the win as well.

01:29:56.381 --> 01:30:08.954
That's how you're gonna grow, not by sitting and gatekeeping and comparing I was, I was hold, I was, so I was holding in my excitement because you just gave the biggest.

01:30:08.954 --> 01:30:10.838
Oh my god, somebody used this for the intro.

01:30:10.838 --> 01:30:13.845
No, seriously, I'm happy that.

01:30:13.845 --> 01:30:15.807
Oh my, oh my god, I am so excited.

01:30:15.807 --> 01:30:19.536
Holy shit, oh, this episode is gonna be a bigger.

01:30:19.536 --> 01:30:21.319
Oh my god, this is gonna be so.

01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.704
No, I love, love, love, love, love, love that advice.

01:30:23.704 --> 01:30:29.925
You have just heard a, a lot of actionable advice, but that one you just heard.

01:30:29.925 --> 01:30:42.761
Guys, please take that to heart because we, you said action uh leads to growth action leads to failure and to the wind as well 100 uh certified banger right there.

01:30:44.863 --> 01:30:46.185
Okay, a few questions.

01:30:46.185 --> 01:30:54.506
I one thing I wanted to know is this how do you keep your emotional side separate from business?

01:30:56.149 --> 01:30:56.588
Oh, my God.

01:30:57.935 --> 01:30:59.301
Bro, that shit is hard.

01:30:59.502 --> 01:31:03.082
Okay, you know, like you can tell, it's really hard for me.

01:31:04.176 --> 01:31:06.363
That's why I want to know how you'd go about this.

01:31:06.954 --> 01:31:10.786
So it's not that I'm changing roles.

01:31:10.786 --> 01:31:13.264
Of course, like when you're going to work, you're different.

01:31:13.264 --> 01:31:14.801
When you're with family, you're different.

01:31:15.216 --> 01:31:21.881
Like you're a completely different person in every like different aspect of your life and it's completely normal.

01:31:21.881 --> 01:31:28.307
You should do that because, like you can't be the same person when you're home and when you're with people who you like work with.

01:31:28.307 --> 01:31:34.020
And I think I just have this thing, as I said, like few personalities.

01:31:34.020 --> 01:31:51.421
And it helps me right now because when I'm at work, I'm working, Even though when I was going through hard stuff last year, like through separation and everything I remember on the day of separation, I was going to a session and I was like I don't have energy, I need to give love.

01:31:51.387 --> 01:31:52.983
I need to give love to people but I don't have energy like I need to give love.

01:31:52.983 --> 01:31:55.390
You know, I need to give love to people but I don't have anything inside.

01:31:55.390 --> 01:32:09.261
But the moment when I got there, the moment when I saw these people, we just talked a little and I was like I forgot everything, like I forgot every my, like problems, like any thoughts.

01:32:09.622 --> 01:32:25.858
I was at work, I was working oh my gosh, I was yeah yeah, I was working, uh, and I didn't think about anything else, I was just completely into the process and after the session I felt so great.

01:32:25.858 --> 01:32:28.182
Honestly, it was my it's like.

01:32:28.182 --> 01:32:37.926
It's like my therapy, honestly, because when I see especially when you're going through breakup or something and you see people who are in love, you're just like.

01:32:37.926 --> 01:32:40.890
You're just like, wow, this exists.

01:32:40.890 --> 01:32:45.716
This is such a great thing, you know, there's hope, yeah, of course, and it's just every time.

01:32:45.716 --> 01:32:49.783
It just reminds me how beautiful it is when you're finding the right person.

01:32:49.783 --> 01:32:58.765
And I'm telling my clients you're so lucky to find each other, because it's such a precious thing to find someone who loves you and who cares about you.

01:32:58.765 --> 01:33:03.182
Just hold to that, because it's the most important thing.

01:33:03.182 --> 01:33:10.242
Honestly, if you don't have people around you who loves you and who you love too, what's the reason of everything?

01:33:10.242 --> 01:33:12.032
Money, money who loves you and who you love too, like what's the reason of everything?

01:33:12.032 --> 01:33:12.313
You know?

01:33:13.114 --> 01:33:17.578
Money A.

01:33:18.006 --> 01:33:18.534
Ferrari.

01:33:20.019 --> 01:33:24.538
Ferrari A FX3.

01:33:24.538 --> 01:33:25.761
Oh wait, Wait, what do you shoot A?

01:33:26.363 --> 01:33:29.649
Canon Canon EOS R 300.

01:33:30.135 --> 01:33:33.923
Canon 5D Mark V, I don't know.

01:33:33.923 --> 01:33:52.266
't know a lot of things to be happy for yes, but on the top of that is love, love is everything, love is everything I love, romanticizing, romanticizing you love romanticizing whoa, romanticizing you love romanticizing Whoa.

01:33:52.766 --> 01:34:00.600
Things Like and life in general, Just seeing love everywhere.

01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:02.250
It's a good habit and it's something that you can exercise.

01:34:02.250 --> 01:34:22.307
I think it's something that every person should do, because there's so much pain and so much horrible things, so many horrible things that are happening in the world and it's really easy to focus on the bad things and being angry at everyone and being sad and have all these emotions.

01:34:22.935 --> 01:35:11.886
But it's really hard to find this strength to feel love when around you is such a like chaotic world and it's you need to exercise, you need to start romanticizing small things in your life and after that you will not be focused on the bad things anymore, such as breakups, like world situations, like I'm not gonna like sell specific situations, but it's really important to focus on the good things, because it's really easy to focus on the bad things I just want to say, when things get tough on your end, henneka, um, I know you get, uh, the love from other people, but I want you to just don't don't forget when things get tough.

01:35:12.337 --> 01:35:13.882
You do deserve some love for yourself too.

01:35:13.882 --> 01:35:24.595
Okay, oh, yes, okay, just try not to forget that now I'm filled with love honestly, and I'm so happy I I have people around me and I'm so grateful for these people.

01:35:25.037 --> 01:35:28.385
they help me to go through my highs and lows and it just, it's just great to have these people.

01:35:28.385 --> 01:35:31.171
I'm every day I'm just honestly I'm thinking it's just great to have these people.

01:35:31.171 --> 01:35:36.904
I'm every day I'm just honestly I'm thinking how grateful I am to have people around me that I love you.

01:35:37.104 --> 01:35:43.327
I love you, hey first of all, we just we're moving too fast here.

01:35:43.367 --> 01:35:47.425
Relax First of all people that I love and people that loves me.

01:35:50.536 --> 01:35:55.828
We're moving too fast here, tiger Whoa, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow the fuck down.

01:35:55.847 --> 01:35:56.408
I have a boyfriend.

01:35:56.408 --> 01:35:58.622
I'm getting stressed out.

01:35:59.555 --> 01:36:02.965
This is my stress collector Relax.

01:36:03.445 --> 01:36:05.121
Okay, english is my second language.

01:36:06.041 --> 01:36:10.140
Yeah, you're doing great actually, but okay, unfortunately we're almost out of time.

01:36:10.140 --> 01:36:10.622
I'm sorry, guys.

01:36:10.622 --> 01:36:13.976
Now what's next for annika do?

01:36:15.038 --> 01:36:32.386
next is more art sessions I would say not less commercial, I would say um still shooting with couples weddings okay uh, small families probably too, and I want to work with brands.

01:36:32.967 --> 01:36:34.529
Press Brands Okay.

01:36:34.829 --> 01:36:38.082
Yeah, press maybe too, I don't know.

01:36:38.082 --> 01:36:41.962
But brands for sure, small brands, big brands.

01:36:41.962 --> 01:36:44.302
Of course, in the future that would be great too.

01:36:44.302 --> 01:37:10.277
Just put my vision into some brands, it would be great, and I think to experiment more and try I would try different styles too, like I want to try to work more with um, like with the softbox, for example, like I don't work with, like external lights at all yeah, I work only with natural lights mostly, mostly, like 99% of the time.

01:37:10.337 --> 01:37:17.841
It's natural, like all what you see yeah, all what you see in my profiles, it's all natural light, no external light what the?

01:37:18.181 --> 01:37:29.082
fuck yeah okay, go on yes, and I think that would be great to make more art sessions like create.

01:37:29.082 --> 01:37:36.305
Create projects with my vision, not just, for example, what my client wants.

01:37:36.305 --> 01:37:46.243
It's more my vision, with my outfits, with my idea, with some message into this project.

01:37:46.243 --> 01:38:00.648
I think that's what I want more sessions like that, just create more projects, probably because I love to style my sessions, like to put the message into the sessions and just create beautiful art.

01:38:01.291 --> 01:38:02.034
That's so beautiful.

01:38:02.034 --> 01:38:16.810
Well, um, actually so going forward, um, what is the one thing that you could say to yourself from a long time ago where you are now?

01:38:16.810 --> 01:38:27.569
What's one thing you wish you could say now to the little girl that was finding her way from jumping from one group to another, going through all of that?

01:38:27.569 --> 01:38:32.055
What is one thing that you're so proud to say now that you could say to that little girl Going through?

01:38:32.115 --> 01:38:32.655
all of that.

01:38:32.655 --> 01:39:05.667
What is one thing that you're so proud to say now that you could say to that little girl Focus on what you want, don't doubt yourself, because there's always going to be people who's better than you and by comparing you're not doing better for yourself and you will always do what you love because you know what you want, even if you think that you don't, because I had this thing that I didn't know what I want for a while and besides, photography, right, and I ended up being a photographer.

01:39:05.667 --> 01:39:23.636
You know, I ended up here doing pictures and being like full-time photographer, which is great, and just don't doubt yourself, you're great and don't stop be sure of what you're doing and do everything with love.

01:39:24.137 --> 01:39:25.341
yeah you know, I don't.

01:39:25.341 --> 01:39:26.784
I don't think you're a photographer anymore.

01:39:26.784 --> 01:39:29.422
I think you're someone who, I think there is a reason why you assimilate yourself when so many people.

01:39:29.422 --> 01:39:32.835
I think you're someone who, I think there is a reason why you assimilate yourself with so many people.

01:39:32.835 --> 01:39:33.957
I think you're there to.

01:39:33.957 --> 01:39:36.926
You're like a beacon of their like, you're their message.

01:39:36.926 --> 01:39:42.667
You're there to literally autograph, like take every part of their moment.

01:39:42.667 --> 01:39:47.605
You're there to tell their story, to remind them that love is around every corner.

01:39:47.605 --> 01:39:47.907
What?

01:39:47.966 --> 01:39:48.448
am I trying to say?

01:39:48.694 --> 01:39:50.322
Love is around the corner is what I'm trying to say.

01:39:50.322 --> 01:39:53.002
I think you found the person that you are now.

01:39:53.002 --> 01:39:56.881
I think you're getting close to who you are supposed to be and I think you're on the right path.

01:39:56.881 --> 01:39:58.668
You're doing great thank you.

01:39:59.010 --> 01:40:02.542
Thank you so much what thank you you're welcome.

01:40:02.542 --> 01:40:04.989
You're very thank you for having me here.

01:40:04.989 --> 01:40:27.548
Honestly, it's my first experience with podcasts and you're the first one, but, uh, I was honestly even thinking when, when you texted me, I was just okay, yeah, that's, that's an amazing, uh opportunity and old me, like my first thought, you know, like this first initial thought was like, should I do that?

01:40:27.548 --> 01:40:32.364
Like I've never done it before, because we were even talking like together, like together, like when we met.

01:40:32.635 --> 01:40:38.086
And I was just like, are you sure you want me there, because I'm not a big of a talker in front of the camera.

01:40:38.086 --> 01:40:58.496
And again, like I started just right now, for example, with someone you know in such an interesting set, you know like your office, and it's like it's a new level for me and it's like it opened the gate and this action leads me to win you know what I mean right now like yeah, that's what I like.

01:40:58.676 --> 01:41:01.181
After this thought, like why should I do that or not?

01:41:01.181 --> 01:41:03.067
I was like hell, yeah, I'll do that.

01:41:03.067 --> 01:41:04.036
Like why shouldn't I?

01:41:04.036 --> 01:41:04.476
Right?

01:41:04.476 --> 01:41:05.840
Like what what's stopping me?

01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:07.002
Why, why I shouldn't do that?

01:41:07.002 --> 01:41:22.344
And um, the thing is I wanted to start youtube channel for such a long time, since I was, like 13 years old, never done it, like I yes, I know, I regret and everyone was telling me like you should start your youtube channel.

01:41:22.344 --> 01:41:25.154
You have so much, so many things going like in your life.

01:41:25.154 --> 01:41:29.644
You should tell people around about that, but it's, it's a long story.

01:41:29.644 --> 01:41:35.283
Um, we'll talk about that in the second part, probably, but I would, I would start youtube channel for sure.

01:41:35.543 --> 01:41:36.367
Like, okay, you got it.

01:41:36.367 --> 01:41:38.814
Okay, you for you already.

01:41:38.814 --> 01:41:41.641
You're already telling so many stories for other people.

01:41:41.641 --> 01:41:45.356
It's time for you to do it for your own um story too.

01:41:45.356 --> 01:41:51.426
Okay, yeah, there's room for you, amongst other I love it.

01:41:51.466 --> 01:41:52.488
There's room for you.

01:41:52.488 --> 01:41:56.099
I love this stuff it's true yeah so please do it.

01:41:56.559 --> 01:42:06.887
Yeah, borrow my lights if you need to take my well, not my cameras, those are my babies, but everything else you could take, okay, start it I think you're right.

01:42:07.368 --> 01:42:24.162
Having the right people there, uh, surrounding yourself with that inspire you to sometimes it's so inspiring, like to hear that you wanted to do it, but now having some certain experiences that now open your eyes to the possibility of doing that, that's love right there.

01:42:24.162 --> 01:42:27.399
Y'all hell, yeah, okay.

01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:35.487
So any last words before we all depart and never see each other again for almost a year, that sounds great, okay, great.

01:42:38.118 --> 01:42:38.761
Last thoughts.

01:42:39.636 --> 01:42:46.405
You said last thoughts, any last words you want to give to everyone that you never got a chance to say throughout this conversation.

01:42:46.645 --> 01:42:50.759
Love is everywhere Love is everywhere I already said that and it's true.

01:42:50.759 --> 01:43:09.587
And, like I said, what I would tell myself younger self, I would tell to everyone, everyone who's just starting or who's like, who's working already as a full time photographer just be open to the world and world opens to you back.

01:43:09.895 --> 01:43:11.523
The world is your oyster.

01:43:15.556 --> 01:43:24.780
Grab it by its balls put yourself there, like in the social medias, because it's such an important thing that I don't do right now.

01:43:24.780 --> 01:43:39.132
But I will do that, like I promised myself right now on the video camera, like I'm telling you now and I like, if I will not do that, just go and write a really nasty comment under my pictures june 17.

01:43:39.193 --> 01:43:45.344
Annika, when you're watching this, it's june 17, 757, monday 2024, future.

01:43:45.344 --> 01:43:49.516
Annika, hopefully you have achieved that goal of doing social media.

01:43:49.516 --> 01:43:51.101
Hi, this is us talking to you.

01:43:51.122 --> 01:43:54.211
Yes, I hope you have youtube, that goal of doing social media.

01:43:54.211 --> 01:43:55.635
Hi, this is us talking to you.

01:43:55.635 --> 01:44:00.666
Yes, I hope you have YouTube channel, or at least TikTok, where you're posting about your life or something about photography, life.

01:44:00.666 --> 01:44:04.244
Yeah, just put yourself out there, don't be afraid.

01:44:04.244 --> 01:44:10.060
And yeah, I think the world's going to treat you well, even if you're afraid of it.

01:44:10.694 --> 01:44:11.448
The world's going to eat you up.

01:44:11.448 --> 01:44:12.511
It's going to make you well, even if you're afraid of it.

01:44:12.511 --> 01:44:16.203
The world's going to eat you up and spit you out, make you become the person you need to be.

01:44:16.203 --> 01:44:20.132
Yes, Mean lovey, that's what you're going to get.

01:44:20.132 --> 01:44:20.435
Bad cop.

01:44:20.435 --> 01:44:22.881
Yes bad cop, good cop.

01:44:22.881 --> 01:44:24.145
Where can people find you?

01:44:25.515 --> 01:44:34.408
On Instagram annikadaph and you're annika, double N yeah, pretty much that's it, Find me there.

01:44:35.398 --> 01:44:36.261
If you have a question.

01:44:38.097 --> 01:44:38.500
Thank you.

01:44:38.500 --> 01:44:45.485
My website, it's Anikacom, that's it.

01:44:46.115 --> 01:44:47.119
Oh, very simple.

01:44:47.340 --> 01:44:48.163
It's really simple.

01:44:48.163 --> 01:44:49.680
Yeah, you'll find me there.

01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:53.176
Yeah, I'm open to any conversations, any collaborations.

01:44:53.176 --> 01:45:02.345
I love to collaborate with other artists and if you any of you have great thoughts or you want to create something together, just hit me up guys.

01:45:02.787 --> 01:45:06.716
She's also booking for 2024 and 2025, according to her website.

01:45:06.716 --> 01:45:07.518
So book now.

01:45:07.518 --> 01:45:09.600
Limited seatings only.

01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:17.331
Yeah, there's only a lot of millions of you couples out there, but there's only one Annika so book now.

01:45:17.331 --> 01:45:19.481
That is it for this episode.

01:45:19.481 --> 01:45:21.301
We'll see her in the next part.

01:45:21.301 --> 01:45:21.762
Two right.

01:45:21.842 --> 01:45:24.762
Annika, yeah, yeah, I'll see you next time.

01:45:25.074 --> 01:45:29.527
And we'll be talking about the progress on YouTube, as well as the business and marketing and all of that.

01:45:29.527 --> 01:45:30.640
Stay tuned for the part two.

01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:31.881
Thank you so much for watching this episode, youtube, as well as the business and marketing and all of that.

01:45:31.881 --> 01:45:32.064
Stay tuned for the part two.

01:45:32.064 --> 01:45:33.721
Thank you so much for watching this uh episode.

01:45:33.721 --> 01:45:36.427
Don't forget to hit, like and subscribe uh on my youtube.

01:45:36.427 --> 01:45:38.242
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah all in the description.

01:45:38.242 --> 01:45:39.265
I really hate call outs.

01:45:39.265 --> 01:45:43.840
Uh, yeah, um, I'll see you guys in the next episode and that is it.

01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:45.984
Bye, bye, thank you.

01:45:45.984 --> 01:45:47.768
I'm not done talking yet.

01:45:47.768 --> 01:45:50.903
This conversation is now over.

01:45:50.903 --> 01:45:52.186
We'll see you in the next episode.

01:45:52.186 --> 01:45:53.458
Please continue what you're going to say.

01:45:54.201 --> 01:46:03.703
Bye guys, thank you for listening and please leave five-star reviews or anything to support this beautiful podcast by Kino.

01:46:03.703 --> 01:46:06.801
And Sorry again, what's your full name?

01:46:07.875 --> 01:46:09.780
Kenneth Paul Manuel Kenneth.

01:46:09.820 --> 01:46:10.422
Paul Manuel.

01:46:10.422 --> 01:46:13.824
Oh, wow, I'm saying his fairy tale tale.

01:46:13.824 --> 01:46:28.216
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